let me spread my misery !

[Cappy]

hi i have a dell and its a minitower (yes it sucks i know) and i have some ATI Rage 16mb (ya that sucks too) and ive bought a radeon 9000 128mb but it doesnt fit so i was wonderin if you guys know any low-profile cards? i here the best one i can get is a Geforce4 MX 460 64mb is this true?

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

get ur shit together...is it pci or agp...and how old is ur dell...we need more info than that...if u need pci slot vid card, the best u can get is geforce 4 mx 440 with ddr...

damn...dont support dell...build ur own rig...cheaper...more customizable...better

[Cappy]

i have an AGP slot and my dell is like a year old now id say..

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

then ...you should be able to put anything u want in it if its only a year old...and be able to run any game u throw at it...as long as its about 1ghz speed pentium 3, although athlons are better...oh well...take it somewhere that fixes pcs and theyll do all the dirty work for you...yellowpages my friend

[Hobbes874]

If it's an AGP card and you have an AGP slot then it should fit

[Cappy]

no becuase i have a mini-tower other AGP cards that i have tried didnt fit but this one looks like it would..

[Yian]

He's telling the truth. The mini tower he's talking about here usually don't even have a AGP slot, just three PCI slots. Doesn't matter though, since none of the cards could possibly fit in their. Anything go beyond the size of a nVidia Geforce2 will not be able to fit into that tower in any direction. The cards these days are slightly bigger than that. I really don't see how you can fit any powerful stuff into that Dell's shit. That minitower just was never designed to be upgraded. Sorry Cappy. Unless you are willing to use your machine with its case open, you are basically screwed.

[Phoosh]

He can cut a hole in his case....that could work....

Yes. I know. Computer Technician and genius, I must be.

[Yian]

Yeah right cut a hole...

[Rhenna]

I've got your solution. Rip everything out of your Dell case and toss it into a genuine ATX case. Now, everything will fit. Then, dump about three weeks worth of garbage in the old case and ship it back to Dell. "Dude, you're getting a load."

I HATE those bastards! By the way, as far as PCI video cards go, get a Radeon 9000. Not the fastest, but it's DirectX 8 compliant and it's about the best you can currently get for a PCI slot.

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

huh, whered u see a radeon 9000 for pci...as far as ive seen...the best pci cards yet are geforce4 mx 440 w/ 64mb ddr, and ati radeon 7500...wow...
also...
why did they never make somethign that would bond a couple of pci slots together to make a data rate about as fast as a agp slot for ppl who have pentium 3 or older computers, just wondering...

give me the link for that vid card...

peace out

[Rhenna]

The Radeon 7500 and NV MX440 are decent cards for PCI, but just DirectX 7 compliant. The 9000 is DirectX 8 compliant, and I can't think of anything else for PCI that is. Check around on PriceWatch for 'em. GoogleGear and Newegg were selling them the last time I checked. 9000 is clocked at 250MHz core, 250MHz memory, (500Mhz DDR); the 9000 Pro, which I'm not sure comes in PCI, is 275/275. BTW, doesn't your Asus mobo have an AGP slot? Or, maybe you just want to run two vidcards?

[Jaredster]

Originally posted by ZANDAMORPHIS

why did they never make somethign that would bond a couple of pci slots together to make a data rate about as fast as a agp slot for ppl who have pentium 3 or older computers, just wondering...

give me the link for that vid card...

peace out


Well prolyl because the size of mother boards and the mother boards themselfs.

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

oh you bet it does have an agp slot, this was just an old vid card i had lying in my compaq peice of poop, i didnt have money to get a new vid card yet cuz i just bought and built that new pc i have listed, soon i wanna get the radeon 9800 pro but i was just curious where u could get a pci radeon 9000, give me a friggin link...lol
bye

[Freakonaleash89]

I've got your solution. Rip everything out of your Dell case and toss it into a genuine ATX case. Now, everything will fit. Then, dump about three weeks worth of garbage in the old case and ship it back to Dell. "Dude, you're getting a load."

LOL thats a really good idea but I dont think 3 weeks worth would fit in there. Thats so funny ROTFL!

Steven "Dude ur gettin a dell!" rulez!!

[Hobbes874]

Originally posted by Phoosh
He can cut a hole in his case....that could work....

Yes. I know. Computer Technician and genius, I must be.
that would work, it would look a little weird :D

[sushi128]

Originally posted by ZANDAMORPHIS
why did they never make somethign that would bond a couple of pci slots together to make a data rate about as fast as a agp slot for ppl who have pentium 3 or older computers, just wondering...

they did, and it is the greatness that was the voodoo 2's, bonded in SLI mode. man, the good ol' days....

[Rhenna]

Damn, I forgot to warn him about those damn DELL proprietary mobo's and power supplies!!! I hope he doesn't mix'n'match with a standard PS, 'cause there's an easy 50/50 chance he'll wind up smokin' his system... "Dude, your getting a FIRE!"

And sushi128: Glide lives on here at the compound. I have five (5) Voodoo2's on-site, four of which are still SLI-ing away on a regular basis. And a V3 3500TV, and a V5 5500, too. And I don't care who knows it! Jihad!!!

[sushi128]

ah yes...GLide.....i heard it works wonders with UT. the V5 i'm not so crazy about, but the V3 3500, what a friggin powerhouse. takes me back, at a time when i could deal with the 16bit color, cause it was just such a damn good card. those V2's, those are keepers. i won't tell anyone :D

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

Originally posted by sushi128
ah yes...GLide.....i heard it works wonders with UT. the V5 i'm not so crazy about, but the V3 3500, what a friggin powerhouse. takes me back, at a time when i could deal with the 16bit color, cause it was just such a damn good card. those V2's, those are keepers. i won't tell anyone :D

man what are you a friggin 3dfx sales representitive haha...lata...

i still love my voodoo b4 it was voodoo but i know it was a voodoo1 and i tried quake 3 on it...guess what...it worked perfect...lol

[sushi128]

uh, i'm not that old, but atleast i remember when 3DFX was WAY up top. 3DFX is dead, have i suggested otherwise? it kills the GF2 and radeon in UT (direct 3D/open GL), but how bout newer games? i don't think any 3DFX would stand a chance. but what i DO advocate on the topic of 3DFX is for secondary systems. cheap and powerful :)

k?

PS: a voodoo 1 working in quake 3???!?!?! imagine that...(seriously, that's quite a pleasent surprise)

[ReDeeMeR]

Correction it kills only in Glide, but there's not true 32bit on 3Dfx... so if you set Geforce to 16Bit it kills Voodoo3 easiliy. :)

[sushi128]

UT can use GLide, and therefore it kills; and from personal experience, the IQ was much better (even openGL was better than direct3D). and i mentioned how GLide was superior in UT in a previous post. and i don't believe the original geforce would beat the voodoo 3, even with 16bit color. i'll need some hard numbers to be convinced (not that u care anyware...)