is the gameboy dead?

[dead elvis]

With the rapid advance in gaming phones such as the p800 and soon to be released Nokia N-GAGE, does anyone else think that it could herald the start of a slow death for the gameboy, in say three years time?

[cr3am]

I haven't touched my gameboy color in a year or two, and i don't plan to. For me, it's all about music and books now.

What gameboy needs to do, is it needs to make a good system that actually LOOKS GOOD. They also need a new game, mario doesn't cut it for ten years. If they stay on this track though, i think it will die out soon.

[dead elvis]

and another thing is these phones are bringing an online multi player element to portable gaming, which the g.b does not offer.

[Odm]

It might not die, but Nintendo might go bankrupt and sell Gameboy to someone else. Just think of all the little kids who play gameboy... parents won't give them a cellphone.

[mR-D]

I can't stand those 16-bit graphics...
I once had a gameboy when I was 6 years old and it was really cool to play then but, now i wouldn't touch them. Why would you want to have a Gameboy with crappy graphics, when you can have a PC with grouse graphics. I know that it's portable, but, I still wouldn't touch it.

[dead elvis]

thing is, with these new gaming phones, they have nice little added features which i cant see the gameboy ever having. Unless it too can provide online multiplayer gaming,I think the gameboy could slip way behind.

[cr3am]

*IDEA* maybe the next gameboy should have an adapter that plugs into your cell phone and allows multiplayer [and fucks up the games at the same time... shhhh]

[ghiop]

I remember a long, long time ago, when that thing came out. The old one. I just can't believe it's still alive now.

Didn't Sega make one that was better? Like Game Gear or something? I never really got into them, so I don't know.

[cr3am]

yeah, and the Game Gear was in color too! Back in the day, and gameboy tried to make it sound so amazing that it was in color

[Downfall]

i remember the game gear, i had one of those, i think i still have it in my closet somewhere. I thought it was better than the gameboy when i was a kid.

[Jaredster]

Originally posted by Downfall
i remember the game gear, i had one of those, i think i still have it in my closet somewhere. I thought it was better than the gameboy when i was a kid. '

yes, its was equivilant to the gameboy advance (execpt the game boy advance is 32-bit and the gamegear was 16-bit). But the gamegear was far from energy effecant. I have a GameBoy Advance SP. I don't think gameboy is dieing, they just need to make new games for it.

[shadow_23]

i agree with u jaredster the gameboy isnt gonna die out it just needs some new games. and with the games that r coming out soon like gta, gta2, final fantasy the gb isnt gonna have a shortage of good games
plus with its ability 2 connect to the gc u would be able to play online games through it aslong as u have a gc and have it connected.

[Smapdey]

Okay, okay...

Gameboy is far from dieing out, Nintendo could live off of the asian market alone, not to mention the American and European ones (Which aren't doing badly at all). Gameboy frequently outsells the Xbox.

As for the Game Gear, I had one too, and it was just an oversized GBA. Really. The thing took 6 AA and was about twice the size of a GBA. The cool thing about it though is that when Nintendo was doing the pocket, Game Gear was doing color. It's even funnier to note that the GBC's own color was still considered shiity compared to the GG's color.

Now, about the future of GB, let us look back at the progression of bit systems:

First we had the Nintendo, which was, 8 or 16 bit, I believe 16.

Then we get the SNES, That was 32. That's equal to what the GBA has now.

Then we have the N64 which was 64 bit. That's the next progression in technology. What this adds up to? It's entirely possibly for the next GBA to be able to play ports of classic N64 games (Mario Cart 64, Mario 64, Goldeneye, Gauntlet Legends, Et Cetera). Now, who can't say they wouldn't jump on that system?

As for Nokia's system, it already has mixed reviews. It's going to cost $300, and people have hailed it as a shitty phone combined with a gimmick that's pulled off less than admirably, and it's been hailed as "Alright, the cost is going to kill it though."

Naturally we can assume that it's going to flop big time, as people already hate it just from the E3 preview. http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2003-05-19&res=l

[RAY16]

The most power-hungry handheld ever was the NOMAD. Now that thing drained power! And about the GG, it had its flaws (Big size, huge power drain), but it was way better then the Gameboy. It was in color (Gameboy color was crap, it could only do differnt shades of red, green, etc.), and it didn't require a light because it had one built in (which was probably the main reason for the massive power drain).

[Hobbes874]

I think Gameboys are pretty awsome, but i wouldn't spend the $100 now at my age. Their more for the younger types :D IMO I really can sit down and play one for very long. Mainly because i'm so used to the amazing grafix on my comp.

[Smapdey]

I don't play mine much at all...

[dead elvis]

Thats what i think. I reckon the gameboy will fall behind phones such as the n-gage, with the mid twenties professional market, as they dont provide everything a young person desires today. I mean if you can speak, text, send people pic messages, play games and download mp3's from one system, there seems little point in owning a gameboy!

[Smapdey]

Actually, it's cheaper and easier to buy a phone, and then buy a gameboy seperate...

[ghiop]

Originally posted by dead elvis
Thats what i think. I reckon the gameboy will fall behind phones such as the n-gage, with the mid twenties professional market, as they dont provide everything a young person desires today. I mean if you can speak, text, send people pic messages, play games and download mp3's from one system, there seems little point in owning a gameboy!

Except the n-gage seems to suck, from about every comment on it that I've seen. And, I don't think the mid-twenties professional market is really the demographic that Nintendo is aiming for with the gameboy. There's a reason Pokemon did so well on gamebody, and it isn't businessmen.

[Odm]

Originally posted by Odm
all the little kids who play gameboy... parents won't give them a cellphone. Ghiop, that was basically my point. Gameboy won't die because kids will still like Gameboy

[sushi128]

Just for clarification, the Game Gear was 8bit, and was a tad slower than the first gameboy. the Super NES was a 16bit console, and they made the jump to 64bit with the N64 (which competed with the 32bit PS).

and i don't think the gameboy will die out. it's cheap enough so that multifunction PDA's won't take it's market away, definitely. but then again, games on PDA's are sooo much more fun :D

[ghiop]

Originally posted by Odm
Ghiop, that was basically my point. Gameboy won't die because kids will still like Gameboy

Yeah, I was arguing dead elvis' point, though. Since he said the young professionals are what drives the game boy market, and they'll want to switch so they can talk on their game machine too. But yeah, I was reiterating your point.

[dead elvis]

yeah kids may still like the gameboy, but i think the n-gage is looking towards a more adult market. I mean if your twenty something and you take out a gameboy, you look pretty sad. But id imagine if you and all your mates get one, you'll have some kind of street cred for having the latest technology!?

[jacksims]

Roll on change - Nintendo need a rocket up their arses - what they been doing for the last 10 years as far as handhelds go!! Why hasnt the development of handheld systems mached that of home consoles?

[Odm]

Originally posted by dead elvis
yeah kids may still like the gameboy, but i think the n-gage is looking towards a more adult market. I mean if your twenty something and you take out a gameboy, you look pretty sad. But id imagine if you and all your mates get one, you'll have some kind of street cred for having the latest technology!? Yes but how will this affect the gameboy? The people who buy the phone are usually too old to play gameboy. The target audience is below 13...

[NiteX]

Originally posted by Odm
It might not die, but Nintendo might go bankrupt and sell Gameboy to someone else. Just think of all the little kids who play gameboy... parents won't give them a cellphone.

The day nintendo does go bankrupt if ever, they will trash every thing and sell nothing and they claimed that would be the end of all nintendo games systems everything, there not sega they wont pass down anything.

[dead elvis]

it will probably affect the gameboy by the fact that kids want any new gadget that comes out. And i dont know about anyone else, but i see really young kids in the street with phones now. So if they find out about a phone which plays games, god help their parents!!!

[AndyLee]

Originally posted by dead elvis
it will probably affect the gameboy by the fact that kids want any new gadget that comes out. And i dont know about anyone else, but i see really young kids in the street with phones now. So if they find out about a phone which plays games, god help their parents!!!

You're not wrong about that! Kids love mobile phones! If they've not already got a Gameboy and therefore no loyalty to Nintendo then they may well go for something like the N-Gage! And if the price ends up being subsidised by operator then parents will buy them!

[dead elvis]

I reckon they will become really cheap on contract, if not free in some cases. My mate has just got one of those camera phones, with the round dial, forget what model, but he got it free on an upgrade. Watch all the kiddlies be playing each other on their n-gage in the playground soon.

[dead elvis]

I knwo its an old thread, but found these links which are pretty relevant to my old posting.


http://www.dialaphone.co.uk/kelkoo/default.aspx?offercode=VODVSA14

From £49.99
http://www.phones4u.co.uk/shop/shop_contract_details.asp?ItemKey=28208&ManKey=1

[Digital Pimp]

GAHHHHHHH!!!! more N-Gage spammers!!!!! Go back to Nokia. Leave, Leave Now or I will have you killed!!!

j/k

[NiteX]

by the way it looks nobody likes the n-gage, so its very safe to say no the gameboy will probably never die....unless the new sony handheld can beat it....you never know.

[dead elvis]

fucking chill will you, just thought it might help if someone was after one, by letting them know where to not get ripped off. I dont really give a shit about nokia. And i think the fact that only 400,000 were sold worldwide in the first few weeks of sale shows that no one else does either!

[Digital Pimp]

The thing is is that its just too much for this thing they call a video game system. I have had no interest in it since day one. I mean you use minutes to play online against others. I would have gone through my minutes prolly withing the first week. The way you put games in is ridiculous and then the battery life sux and then the games are on card which could be easily lost or broken. Hell, GBA carts have a better structure to them and easier to load. The more work it takes me to load something the less time is spent enjoying it and it will make me want to shoot the thing by game change 3. I'll be getting the PSP long before I touch this thing. The GBA just has a lot more going for it, better games coming out on that thing than on PC and console. The games are a lot longer too. Though some games are re-releases they are quality games and Niontendo knows people will buy them. Super Mario Bros. 3 was just released for GBA last week, the best Mario game ever. Hey the GFX aren't to shabby either for being a decade old game seeing as how cell-shading is being used in games today, the cartoon Mario looks just as good and has been enhanced from its NES days. Yes, its old school but its good old-school we all enjoy and have played before. It might even be one of the first games a few of you prolly played too. So in conclusion do I see the game boy dying? Yes and no, yes because PSP will most likely beat it out when its released, supposedly you can play old PS1 games on the PSP, they will be converted but still its good ol PS1. No, becasue the game boy can be updated, Nintendo is going to be showing off the next Game Boy at an upcoming tradeshow, looks like they're trying to get a PSP competitior pout the door around the PSP release time. Also, its Nintendo you know they're gonna make quality games for their consoles. That's it, I'm done with my NGage/GBA rant comparisson.

[dead elvis]

Surely you dont have to use up your mins. to play online? My god that is the most stupid idea i have heard. like you say, anyone will use their minutes up within days. I guess its a good scam to get people to run up expensive bills. Are you sure thats true?

[Digital Pimp]

I'm not 100% sure, but it maybe a possibility in the future.

[iplayguitar]

i say screw the gameboys cause i have one of those new HP PDAs and its kick ass. not only can u play games but get online and much more. hell i can be in skool and post on the forums with it. isnt theat great.

[Dying_Corpse]

Originally posted by Smapdey
First we had the Nintendo, which was, 8 or 16 bit, I believe 16.

Then we get the SNES, That was 32. That's equal to what the GBA has now.

Then we have the N64 which was 64 bit. That's the next progression in technology. What this adds up to? It's entirely possibly for the next GBA to be able to play ports of classic N64 games (Mario Cart 64, Mario 64, Goldeneye, Gauntlet Legends, Et Cetera). Now, who can't say they wouldn't jump on that system?

nes=8 bit
snes=16 bit
i think they redid a 32 bit version of the snes later

[Digital Pimp]

No 32 bit Nintendo system, it went from 16 bit to 64 bit. Its was so cool when it was unveiled that Nintendo was going 4 times what they had at that point in time.

[KillerTeddy]

I take at least 4 roadtrips every summer and if it weren't for my trusty old school gameboy and my copy of Tetris (teacher, mother, secret lover) I wouldn't even make it past the state lines without going insaine. Half the time I don't know if I'm winning or not, comes with drinking by the case with your friends in the back of a van going 80 down the freeway... but who cares this thing is a classic baby and classics never die. Cept maybe Elvis, or the Beatles, or Bob Marley, or Silent Films...

Pass some liquor for mah homies yo,

KillerTeddy

[dead elvis]

dont think the n-gage is gonna be a living legend, do you hommie?

[sushi128]

Originally posted by Digital Pimp
No 32 bit Nintendo system, it went from 16 bit to 64 bit. Its was so cool when it was unveiled that Nintendo was going 4 times what they had at that point in time.

the GBA is 32bit. also, while the n64 had 64bit registers, it could only address 32bits at a time (so max was 2 32bit words as opposed to 1 64bit).

[dead elvis]

are gaming phones able to imrove in such a swift jump?

[Smapdey]

N-Gage is dead. Dead. It's been hacked, it cost too much, and nobody liked it. Maybe another day. Just go buy a GBA SP.

[dead elvis]

do you not see it as the beginning of something good? whilst the n-gage has its faults it could be the test before a really good gaming phone is produced?

[Smapdey]

Originally posted by dead elvis
do you not see it as the beginning of something good? whilst the n-gage has its faults it could be the test before a really good gaming phone is produced?

No, I don't see as anything more than a failure. No one wants a gaming phone, they sort of proved that. A gamer would rather spend that 300-200 on four games, or a handheld and a console or a console and two games. It's not cost effective by any means.

At 200 bucks, I could get an SP and three, maybe four games.

[dead elvis]

but then i guess its not aimed too much at serious gamers and more at young twenty somethings with a bit of disposable cash to throw around.

[Odm]

Originally posted by dead elvis
but then i guess its not aimed too much at serious gamers and more at young twenty somethings with a bit of disposable cash to throw around. I don't think the young twenty-somethings want an ugly gaming phone...

[Downfall]

im a 20-something.......and i certainly dont know of anyone who actualy own this or plans on buying it.

[iplayguitar]

ill get one of those phones that look like normal cell phones but have tetris on it, then i will be happy

[dead elvis]

Okay so i guess i was wrong! I just can see those with a bit of flash cash wil probably wet themselves at the idea of being the first to own one.

[Smapdey]

You must need your eyes checked then.

[Odm]

I think the problem with the N-gage is that Nokia assumed people actually bought a phone for the games. You might look at at the games when choosing a phone, but ultimately it is the plan, cost, look, and maybe some other features that determine which phones get bought.

[dead elvis]

but i guess someone looking to upgrade there old model might be interested by a phone which does something a bit different from everything else on the market.

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by dead elvis
but i guess someone looking to upgrade there old model might be interested by a phone which does something a bit different from everything else on the market.

Dude, I think the market is more into phones with cameras, music and such. Not games. People want to play games at home not in the bus or on the street. And they certainly don't want to carry around some clumbsy big ass phone.

[dead elvis]

But a camera doesnt really help you pass the time when travelling does it? Im sure thats probably what nokia are getting at.

[Smapdey]

Originally posted by dead elvis
But a camera doesnt really help you pass the time when travelling does it? Im sure thats probably what nokia are getting at.

No, but a good book does, and they're not shipping these things out with library cards.

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by dead elvis
But a camera doesnt really help you pass the time when travelling does it? Im sure thats probably what nokia are getting at.

Usually people who want to pass the time have other things for that like music or a gameboy for instance. Not an N-Gage. Those things are way to bulky.

[dead elvis]

so are we still liking the good ol' fashion book as opposed to new technology when relieving boredom on journeys? Youll be telling me next you buy one of those puzzle books with a free pen!!!1

[Smapdey]

Look, not only does a GBA SP look a fuckload cooler, the games are better, there's more of them, and the thing is half the price with a much better design.

Books will always reign supreme though, don't get me wrong.

[Odm]

Why are you still arguing...???

[dead elvis]

coz we love it!:mad: :D :p ;) :)

[Chimera[NL]]

Books are cool. They make me relax too. If it weren't for books you'd be seeing me on CNN going postal here in little ol' NL.

[Smapdey]

I'm finding that a little Golden Sun on the old Game Boy gets me through a tough spot just fine.

[Chimera[NL]]

Isn't that the game that let's you select 1 of 4 warriors with which you battle the badguys? The game I'm talking about was originally a sideway action game. Or was it called golden axe? I don't know.

[Smapdey]

Look at my sig, that little guy look familiar? He's the main character.

[Chimera[NL]]

Nope never seen it before.

[dead elvis]

going postal? Sorry, not being from the us of a i havent a scooby what you are on about.

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by dead elvis
going postal? Sorry, not being from the us of a i havent a scooby what you are on about.

Well I'm not from the US either. I'm Dutch but I was joking on going "postal" (which is going berserk, shooting people, beating them, stuff like that.)

[Odm]

Just to add something to Chimera's explanation, I think it has something to do with Postal workers having a shitty job then going berzerk...

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by Odm
Just to add something to Chimera's explanation, I think it has something to do with Postal workers having a shitty job then going berzerk...

Really? I didn't know that. Cool when you think of it!

[dead elvis]

S**t im gonna be nice to my postie when he next rings my doorbell at silly o clock in the morning to get me to sign something, dont want him going postal on me!Crazy bike riding mo fo's!