Religion/Hippocritical?

[ihateyou]

I myself am opened to all religions, Well except things like the sun god, But this thread is particularly about hippo critical Christians.

For example say there is a "Christian soldier" fighting Iraq for oil, The people at home see that person and pray that he doesn’t die, But those Iraqis keeping us away from there rightful oil, Well They can just burn in hell cause they don't matter!, This is what I am talking about, Cause in the Christian bible it quotes All people are equal, But still the Americans matter and the Iraqi’s don’t, Not to mention one of the ten Christian commandments statesYou shall not kill., I just don't get it.

Look at the situation in Ireland, Two religions both based on the Christian "Trinity" State not to feud, and there both practically the same religion.

My conclusion is just that people tend to "Bend" their religion to there own interest. GO MAKE A CULT!

[Chimera[NL]]

Religion has been the cause of wars throughout the history of mankind. Goddamn Knights Templar trying to get everybody on their side for instance. So I think religion sucks....it justifies a lot of stupid things for some people and I hate that. Ireland is an example and those extreme fundamentalists in the Middle East.


I believe in nothing except death and taxes. I don't feel much for ANY religion so that's why I don't have one......simple!

[ihateyou]

Originally posted by Chimera[NL]
Religion has been the cause of wars throughout the history of mankind. Goddamn Knights Templar trying to get everybody on their side for instance. So I think religion sucks....it justifies a lot of stupid things for some people and I hate that. Ireland is an example and those extreme fundamentalists in the Middle East.


I believe in nothing except death and taxes. I don't feel much for ANY religion so that's why I don't have one......simple! Finally somone understands, I don't think much for satanic worship either.

[Chimera[NL]]

No not really......the whole satan is coming blablabla crap isn't doing it for me.....I don't believe in ANY higher power.....that includes the "bad" ones.
Your talking to an evolution theory man here, that's for sure!

[Yian]

Guys, can you please quit this "religion sucks" crap? I respect everyone's opinions, but what you guy have been doing to this topic is nothing more than generalizing and looking at one side of the matter and make the judgement.

[ghiop]

I'd have to agree with Yian on this one. I don't know how I personally stand on religion, but it's helped a lot of people. A lot of people, no matter what religion. Yes, there's been a lot of abuses, but much of the violence attributed to religion is called that because it's the most obvious cause. Look at the Crusades--they may well have happened even without the Muslim/Christian thing, just cause it was two expansionist groups with soldiers to spare.
Northern Ireland is made up of a lot of non-Irish heritage people, and that's why they're fighting. Even Israel, the big example, isn't even about religion even more. An Israeli friend of mine admitted as much. It's about ethnic groups. It's Palestianian vs. Hebrew, not Muslim vs. Jew.

Religion is only as bad as the leaders of it. If you apply your same standards, government is inherently bad, because we've had Hitler, Andrew Jackson, Pol Pot, and more and more and more. Medicine is bad because of Shiro Ishii and Josef Mengele. Every facet of life has been used for evil at times. Religion is just easier to pick on.

[future man]

My theory is that all people are stupid as hell.

[ihateyou]

Originally posted by ghiop
I'd have to agree with Yian on this one. I don't know how I personally stand on religion, but it's helped a lot of people. A lot of people, no matter what religion. Yes, there's been a lot of abuses, but much of the violence attributed to religion is called that because it's the most obvious cause. Look at the Crusades--they may well have happened even without the Muslim/Christian thing, just cause it was two expansionist groups with soldiers to spare.
Northern Ireland is made up of a lot of non-Irish heritage people, and that's why they're fighting. Even Israel, the big example, isn't even about religion even more. An Israeli friend of mine admitted as much. It's about ethnic groups. It's Palestianian vs. Hebrew, not Muslim vs. Jew.

Religion is only as bad as the leaders of it. If you apply your same standards, government is inherently bad, because we've had Hitler, Andrew Jackson, Pol Pot, and more and more and more. Medicine is bad because of Shiro Ishii and Josef Mengele. Every facet of life has been used for evil at times. Religion is just easier to pick on. Well, I am not saying that religion is foolish, Although......I think many people are just "Bending" it to there liking, And i also agree with futureman

[unskinnybob]

If it weren't for Catholicism Priests wouldn't get laid. Anybody seen that pretty new alter boy?

[Trustkill]

Religon is more of a political structure that some people actually believe is real. It was easier 1000-2000-3000-etc. years ago to get people to buy into it because they were less cultured and educated. Who had more power in the middle-ages, the church or the state? Church promised things for you in life AND in death while the state was more of the bully with the "pay your taxes or die" mentality. These people NEEDED something to believe in so some dude puts on some fancy little robes and says "I got the solution right here!" What you promise them is in afterlife, so you wont be getting any pissed off customers when (or if) these folk bite it.

Religon is really just a surpressant that creates the ultimate delusion. As much as I hate the system of it, I really gotta respect the ability they have to control their pawns.

I went to catholic private school and I really got my daily dose of bullshit there.

Dont try thinking about it too much, cause one way or the other you will someday find out what happens

[ihateyou]

Well, Mostly i am talking about christians say, "mugging" somone therefor saying it was for my family, Jesus wants me to do that; I just don't get it, There obviously going against there religion right there mugging the man.

[future man]

Jesus wants me to make you shut the hell up, give me your address.

[ghiop]

I've never heard of Christians mugging people and saying it was for God. Maybe I missed that, though.

And I'd have to take issue with some of what TrustKill says. So nobody has religion now? It seems like you're saying that we outgrew religion in the Enlightenment, and since then, it's been all downhill. See, that's interesting, because back then was when the Church-State boundaries were set up. And back then was when the Anglican church was made the official church of England.

Meanwhile, in the Mediaeval times, you have periods of great religious understanding--see Baghdad, circa 1100 AD. The seat of the Caliph was also the greatest city in the world at the time.

Simple fact--you can't blame religion for everything. You can blame it if you charities. You can blame it if you hate that some of your friends can't hang around on Sunday mornings. You can blame it if you think crosses or stars of david or whatever look really garish.

You cannot blame it for everything bad in history.

And, to reply to ihateyou, then christ, John Lennon is hypocritical! Look at Charlie Manson. Remember him? Yes, he said he did it because the Beatles wanted him to. And yet we don't see any people pontificating against the Fad Four, do we?

[ihateyou]

Originally by Ghiop:Meanwhile, in the Mediaeval times, you have periods of great religious understanding But in the Mediaeval period there was also sadistic killings by the thousands; Dungeons, Also in the bible, The so called "holy" preists thought of lepers as inpure by soul, Not just cause they would infect people, But because the were "unholy" Although it states Jesus(the son of the god that they were worshiping) the most holy person in the bible thought that it was wrong to do so.

BTW, If you were a god, Would you want people to worship you? Eh? close there eyes and roll there head around like there on crack?

[wmgreer]

There are alot of hypocritical "Christian" out there. But not all are that way. How does that saying go? It only takes one rotten apple to ruin the whole bunch?

[ihateyou]

Originally posted by wmgreer
There are alot of hypocritical "Christian" out there. But not all are that way. How does that saying go? It only takes one rotten apple to ruin the whole bunch? That is what i meen, Indeed there are some non "hippocritical" christians but the majority is.

[Yian]

The majority?

[future man]

I'm an atheist but I do belive you're full of shit and misinformed.

[Vuldarak X]

i hate religion....
all it does is devide people. whenever humans are devided into grouds there will be chaos..

[Yian]

ok here comes another dude who hates religion... just getting better. And all religion does now is deviding people. Religion truly sucks.

And all PC games do are training people into snipers, PC games can go suck balls. All computers do are calculating missile targets and kill people... end of the computer!

Screw all the cops! All they do is telling us not to speed and give us trouble, let''s kick cops' ass! Shit with the government! All it does is making us to pay the taxes! Piece of shit.... School sucks! All the kids hate school so let's get rid of the schools!

[future man]

Sounds good to me.

[TRUCKIN]

WOo Yay im gettin all anarchy up on this beyotch!

[ihateyou]

Originally posted by Yian
ok here comes another dude who hates religion... just getting better. And all religion does now is deviding people. Religion truly sucks.

And all PC games do are training people into snipers, PC games can go suck balls. All computers do are calculating missile targets and kill people... end of the computer!

Screw all the cops! All they do is telling us not to speed and give us trouble, let''s kick cops' ass! Shit with the government! All it does is making us to pay the taxes! Piece of shit.... School sucks! All the kids hate school so let's get rid of the schools! Hmm, Sounds kinda like the amish cult, There are lots of amish around where I live, I hate it! And they poop all over the roads.

[cr3am]

Don't confuse stupid christians with all christians. I know many many many christians who believe that killing is wrong no matter what (except for self defense) and that being in the army doesn't give you the excuse to kill

[ihateyou]

Originally posted by cr3am
Don't confuse stupid christians with all christians. I know many many many christians who believe that killing is wrong no matter what (except for self defense) and that being in the army doesn't give you the excuse to kill YAY! Go tell that to the amish and we'll be all set.

[future man]

ihateyou, I hope to hell that English isn't your primary language, please tell me it isn't.

[ihateyou]

Do you know how to spell "amish"? is it "Omish"? Eh? I have been trying to figure that out, Well no, This is my first attempt.

[Trustkill]

Originally posted by future man
ihateyou, I hope to hell that English isn't your primary language, please tell me it isn't.

Careful buddy, until I started reading the words of ihateyou, my faith in god was nonexistant. He has returned to deliver us from eternal damnation.

I would light myself on fire in the middle of Times Square for His holiness.

[Yian]

Originally posted by ihateyou
Do you know how to spell "amish"? is it "Omish"? Eh? I have been trying to figure that out, Well no, This is my first attempt.
Wow, so you are telling me that you hate those people while you can't even spell their name right? I thought a reasonable judgement is made after thorough understanding of the subject... and you hate a particular griup while knoes no shit about them except their horse's poo on the road? That's amazing!

[ihateyou]

Originally posted by Yian
Wow, so you are telling me that you hate those people while you can't even spell their name right? I thought a reasonable judgement is made after thorough understanding of the subject... and you hate a particular griup while knoes no shit about them except their horse's poo on the road? That's amazing! Hmm, You must not study the word "Group" much do you like the culture of the "Group" people?

[ghiop]

Originally posted by ihateyou
Hmm, You must not study the word "Group" much do you like the culture of the "Group" people?

Ok, that's just useless needling. And with the leper thing, so what? Nobody knew anything about medicine for a long time. Every group thought there was something wrong--morally, or otherwise--with lepers or other such afflicted people, without saying it was purely physical.

And sadistic killing by the thousands? It's good we got out of that when we hit the Enlightenment. Oh wait.

Well, I guess we did. We made it sadistic killing by the hundreds of thousands.

[ihateyou]

Originally posted by ghiop
Ok, that's just useless needling. And with the leper thing, so what? Nobody knew anything about medicine for a long time. Every group thought there was something wrong--morally, or otherwise--with lepers or other such afflicted people, without saying it was purely physical.

And sadistic killing by the thousands? It's good we got out of that when we hit the Enlightenment. Oh wait.

Well, I guess we did. We made it sadistic killing by the hundreds of thousands. Yes true about the hundreds of thousands of deaths, But what do you think about the "Prefferation" of people? [ Caused by religion]?

And once again i am not saying anything against the bible, Or jesus, Or Christianity, But more or less[more] The "Flexibility" of the bible.......Well accually there are so many oppinions in the bible, You can justifie any thing you do; Huray! We all go to Heaven no matter what!

[Vuldarak X]

Originally posted by Yian
ok here comes another dude who hates religion... just getting better. And all religion does now is deviding people. Religion truly sucks.

And all PC games do are training people into snipers, PC games can go suck balls. All computers do are calculating missile targets and kill people... end of the computer!

Screw all the cops! All they do is telling us not to speed and give us trouble, let''s kick cops' ass! Shit with the government! All it does is making us to pay the taxes! Piece of shit.... School sucks! All the kids hate school so let's get rid of the schools!

well i have prob with pc games or cops. government sucks though, not becouse it just taxes us but becouse its outdated and dosent work corectly anymore.

[Yian]

emmm.... even I have to agree that it's time for a massive change for the government system... but I hope it can be done peacefully.

[Vuldarak X]

agreed. most if not all policys must be thrown out. break it dont to the roots and start it back up again. everything needs to evolve(lol, imagine that....evolution in a thread about religion) or it gets left behind.

[ghiop]

Originally posted by ihateyou
But what do you think about the "Prefferation" of people? [ Caused by religion]?


Could you spell-check that? Cause I'm trying to answer your question, but I don't know what the word is.

And don't take this as insulting, cause it's not. I want to have an open discussion of religion's place in modern culture, and in order to do that, I need to know what word you're trying to use there.

[ihateyou]

Originally posted by ghiop
Could you spell-check that? Cause I'm trying to answer your question, but I don't know what the word is.

And don't take this as insulting, cause it's not. I want to have an open discussion of religion's place in modern culture, and in order to do that, I need to know what word you're trying to use there. Oh sorry, I usually look over my post, it is probably the wrong word anyway.

Well I meant when people prefer other people cause they are Christian even if they are going against the bible.

[ghiop]

I'm still a little confused. Like if somebody is Christian he'll get support from other Christians even if he's doing something wrong?

I'll confess that I haven't really run across that except in the big-time religious strife. Or, perhaps worded better, big-time blamed on religion strife. At the same time, even during those periods, that's not the rule.

During the Crusaders attacks on Jews as they marched to the Holy Lands (they depopulated a few towns) the local people helped hide them from the unruly Crusaders (who, I might add, also killed a lot of fellow Christians--see the sack of Constantinople a few years later), as well as the local bishop.

It's more a matter of nationalism, more a matter of a lot of other things coming together with Urban II's misguided call.
It's not the Church's fault, it's Urban II's fault. It's the Crusade leader's fault.
The Church was trying to rein that in. In fact, if Urban had his way, the Crusaders would have been a regular army, and simply fought to take the Holy Land, and held it, instead of being a rapacious swarm of barbarians. So, once again, can't blame the Church all the time.

[ihateyou]

Originally posted by ghiop
I'm still a little confused. Like if somebody is Christian he'll get support from other Christians even if he's doing something wrong?

I'll confess that I haven't really run across that except in the big-time religious strife. Or, perhaps worded better, big-time blamed on religion strife. At the same time, even during those periods, that's not the rule.

During the Crusaders attacks on Jews as they marched to the Holy Lands (they depopulated a few towns) the local people helped hide them from the unruly Crusaders (who, I might add, also killed a lot of fellow Christians--see the sack of Constantinople a few years later), as well as the local bishop.

It's more a matter of nationalism, more a matter of a lot of other things coming together with Urban II's misguided call.
It's not the Church's fault, it's Urban II's fault. It's the Crusade leader's fault.
The Church was trying to rein that in. In fact, if Urban had his way, the Crusaders would have been a regular army, and simply fought to take the Holy Land, and held it, instead of being a rapacious swarm of barbarians. So, once again, can't blame the Church all the time.

Well more or less[more] I am not so much blaming it on the church but the "misuse" of the bible.

This thread seems to be misunderstood, I should have just named it, "People that are using religion wrong and making it fit to thier liking ustead of the god they are worshiping" Long title eh? and no I no I do not want you to think that i got that from "Toonami" although the cartoon host once said the, Although i hate "toonami" far surpassign all comprehension, Because it hosts "Anime" which I indeed hate enough to make a thread about.

And once again this thread is about people not so much religion.

Sorry i kinda got carried away.

[Yian]

"People that are using religion wrong and making it fit to thier liking ustead of the god they are worshiping..."

Hey, I agree with that! I don't like those people either.

[ghiop]

I think that's what me and Yian have been saying the entire time. Religion as a concept isn't bad, it's when bad people corrupt it, like they corrupt anything else they come in contact with.

[ihateyou]

Affirmative, I can only hope that there will never be a "New new testament" therefore betraying Christianity as the only way/"light", For example the earlier post about people preferring one another because they are Christian, Like with the Muslim & Christian feuding, In the middle east, Although both might be swaying there religion away from the truth, Its something to fight about, It seems people just can't live without fighting, So they also want to keep religion at the same time, Therefore creating this awful mess of the "Holy wars".

[Kain]

its funny unfortunately Religion was created by people to control people, have you noticed that Chrisianity is one of the worst?
Like the missionaries oh and my favourite of them all....Evangalists
you gotta love the evangalist " Praise the lord and you shall need not your material possesions of money, SO give Me all your money" hahahah, gotta love those programs on at 5 in the morning [ my god i need some sleep].

[ghiop]

I'd have to question the idea that religion was created to control people. I think religions were created to, if you don't believe in a deity, help people make peace with their temporal, short existences. Like I've been saying, you're looking at a relatively small amount of bad examples, and saying that's how the entire thing is, which just isn't right.

[ihateyou]

Originally posted by ghiop
I'd have to question the idea that religion was created to control people. I think religions were created to, if you don't believe in a deity, help people make peace with their temporal, short existences. Like I've been saying, you're looking at a relatively small amount of bad examples, and saying that's how the entire thing is, which just isn't right. I think that religion WAS a great thing to begin with, Although people had to change it to more fit there lives concequentually ruining the entire idea.

[ghiop]

Originally posted by ihateyou
I think that religion WAS a great thing to begin with, Although people had to change it to more fit there lives concequentually ruining the entire idea.

You were doing fine until the hit the "Ruining the entire idea" part. Religion isn't ruined. Even those missionaries everyone loves to hate are doing a lot of good. Not all of them are fundamentalists. A lot of people just go help people and live by example. If people think, "Hey, they must have a good religion, look how happy and good they are," then I guess the missionaries accomplish their goal. Otherwise, they just make things better for the people in the area.

[ihateyou]

Originally posted by ghiop
You were doing fine until the hit the "Ruining the entire idea" part. Religion isn't ruined. Even those missionaries everyone loves to hate are doing a lot of good. Not all of them are fundamentalists. A lot of people just go help people and live by example. If people think, "Hey, they must have a good religion, look how happy and good they are," then I guess the missionaries accomplish their goal. Otherwise, they just make things better for the people in the area. Well, There are some good people, I know some of my cousins that live in Brazil, they are very nice, Although some people are not, therefor when someone else wants to join there religion they might think that all NOTE! "ALL" there actions are justified, I think that if you are sorry once you have done something bad and then try not to, Your ok, although i don't much care for the people doing bad things then repenting but never really changing anything, just living there lives.

[Kain]

im sorry but if you think about it one of the biggest causes of wars in our history [ Remeber i said ONE of the biggest] is religion.

And all those evangilists, [Sorry but i love mentioning these guys] besides in the begining Religions where made to control others. im a person who beleives in the Evoloution theory Not the "it was all just there one day" Idea

[Odm]

Originally posted by ghiop
I'd have to question the idea that religion was created to control people. I think religions were created to, if you don't believe in a deity, help people make peace with their temporal, short existences. Like I've been saying, you're looking at a relatively small amount of bad examples, and saying that's how the entire thing is, which just isn't right. However, there are periods in time where the majority of the people do something wrong (ie the Crusades, Holocaust.) But you're right you can't judge all Christians by what some do, or have done.

[ghiop]

Here's a thought--the only reason religion gets blamed for all this killing is because it was the predominate guiding force. You couldn't say you were not a [Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, etc] until maybe two hundred years ago. You don't have truly secular regimes until even later. Therefore, of course religion will get blamed, because it was there when this stuff happened.

Look what happens when religion isn't a part of the regime:
The Holocaust
Stalin's purges
1930's era Ukraine
The Great Leap Forward
Cambodian killing fields
the destruction of Armenia
Rwanda

Folks, religion has nothing on the secular killing we've seen in the twentieth century.

[ihateyou]

Originally posted by ghiop
Here's a thought--the only reason religion gets blamed for all this killing is because it was the predominate guiding force. You couldn't say you were not a [Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, etc] until maybe two hundred years ago. You don't have truly secular regimes until even later. Therefore, of course religion will get blamed, because it was there when this stuff happened.

Look what happens when religion isn't a part of the regime:
The Holocaust
Stalin's purges
1930's era Ukraine
The Great Leap Forward
Cambodian killing fields
the destruction of Armenia
Rwanda

Folks, religion has nothing on the secular killing we've seen in the twentieth century. Mind if i interlude? Religion was and wasn't the cause of these things, The people simply used the religious idea, to justifie there action, completely disregarding if it was right or not.

EDIT: Although the "All popular" Salem witch trials were a cause of the defence of relgious and civil prosperity.

[Shadow]

Religion is flawed. Obviously flawed, yet most of the population consists of bigots and ignorant fucks, so we ge screwed by them.

[ghiop]

That is simply not true.

And, you just made my point, ihateyou. Religion has nothing to do with these things. It's simply the first available crutch. Failing that, there's the insanity defense, the twinkie defense, whatever. Religion is not wrong. It's as simple as that.

Shadow, how the hell is religion obviously flawed? I mean, if you're coming at this from a "all humanity is flawed" thing, then, maybe, because religion is necessarily human. Otherwise, it is no more flawed than anything else. Anything you believe in could be flawed.

[ihateyou]

Originally posted by ghiop
That is simply not true.

And, you just made my point, ihateyou. Religion has nothing to do with these things. It's simply the first available crutch. Failing that, there's the insanity defense, the twinkie defense, whatever. Religion is not wrong. It's as simple as that.

Shadow, how the hell is religion obviously flawed? I mean, if you're coming at this from a "all humanity is flawed" thing, then, maybe, because religion is necessarily human. Otherwise, it is no more flawed than anything else. Anything you believe in could be flawed. Most things are flawed. Giving is flawed, for example, go give a ghetto poor man some money, he goes and buys a shit load of Harrowin and dies from it, there is good conscious giving and then there is just giving to think that you are a good person.

[edit] Sorry I misspelled the name of this thread, although does it make that much of a difference? ... And alot of things.

[ghiop]

That's a remarkably paternalistic post you just made. I can't honestly believe that you think every "ghetto poor man"--are you using that to mean poor black men?--goins and buys heroin with that. Aside from the obvious questions of which drug they'd use, or alcohol, that's just foolish. A few might, but the vast majority need it to, you know, eat and things.

[ihateyou]

Originally posted by ghiop
That's a remarkably paternalistic post you just made. I can't honestly believe that you think every "ghetto poor man"--are you using that to mean poor black men?--goins and buys heroin with that. Aside from the obvious questions of which drug they'd use, or alcohol, that's just foolish. A few might, but the vast majority need it to, you know, eat and things. No. Not just black, some poor man with no happiness in his life would maybe do this, Heroin, Just that because it could kill you.

[xenophage]

"My theory is that all people are stupid as hell."


well said future man!!!!!1

[3dvisioner]

some opinions i have at the moment... just think, if religions were so perfect and they had all the answers, everyone would want to follow them because it would seem like the smartest way to go, but no religion wants that. religions don't want an easy perfect solution to the problems of the world, they want people to come to religion amidst its doubts and follow based solely on faith. for example, jesus in the bible preached that humans would never be perfect and would always have flaws called sins. these sins include hypocrisy, greed, and whatever else flaws people see in religion. a priest doesn't suddenly become perfect because he's a christian. he still has the same exact susceptibility to sins as everyone else cuz' he's human. Even Jesus' closest followers sinned. one thing is for sure, without religion in the world, there would be a lot more chaos. although religion doesn't stop everybody from murdering, it keeps them in check. but it's the nature of all people to see things one-sided, it's very hard to be very objective and unbiased. i think the best and only way is to follow the heart and don't let anyone else do your thinking for you.

[ihateyou]

Originally posted by 3dvisioner
some opinions i have at the moment... just think, if religions were so perfect and they had all the answers, everyone would want to follow them because it would seem like the smartest way to go, but no religion wants that. religions don't want an easy perfect solution to the problems of the world, they want people to come to religion amidst its doubts and follow based solely on faith. for example, jesus in the bible preached that humans would never be perfect and would always have flaws called sins. these sins include hypocrisy, greed, and whatever else flaws people see in religion. a priest doesn't suddenly become perfect because he's a christian. he still has the same exact susceptibility to sins as everyone else cuz' he's human. Even Jesus' closest followers sinned. one thing is for sure, without religion in the world, there would be a lot more chaos. although religion doesn't stop everybody from murdering, it keeps them in check. but it's the nature of all people to see things one-sided, it's very hard to be very objective and unbiased. i think the best and only way is to follow the heart and don't let anyone else do your thinking for you. Yaknow what’s cool, u can defend yourself in court with religion! Plus most laws are basted on the Ten Commandments.

[3dvisioner]

is ignorance bliss?

it's interesting how everyone is using the word relgion and christianity interchangeably. the truth is, religion can be anything. but if this thread is to talk about how people who call themselves christian are hypocritical, i agree. if they weren't, we'd have a group of people damn near perfect, and we all know perfection in humanity just doesn't exist on this earth.

when someone says they are christian, and then goes and mugs somebody or commits a white lie, these are all sins in the eyes of God. He is the ultimate judge and there really is no other. the actions that are "supposed" to come out of christians are goodness, love, and none of the hypocrisy crap, but that's NOT the core of christianity. it is NOT to become a better person. it is to believe in God and invite Him to change your heart --as an individual. to love others and do good things because He has those small purposes in our measly and miniscule short lives. so no matter how you put it, you're going to see hypocrits left and right. the only person you have to watch out for and keep in check is yourself. looking at the next person only takes away from the attention that is needed to make your own heart and life whole. the reason there is God and christianity based on Him in all these generations is because He is real. there is no way to deny that. even if we ignore it and choose to stay out of all of this mess, the truth remains. He is there. we live, we die, and in the end, who will we trust?

ignorance is not bliss. the ideas in your mind and emotions you have against the christian and all the evil that has come from sins such as world wars...only keep you ignorant of truth.