3D Models.

[TRUCKIN]

Well I recently started using maya again. I read some tutes and started texturing. This is what I got so far. Fell free to give me feedback or just post your models:D :cool:

[TRUCKIN]

This is my model of a gun I made up to practice on.

[TRUCKIN]

Another perspective.

[RADiator]

Site is keeping me too busy lately plus work (ughhh). But I use Maya (when I use it). Nice models BTW. But you might want to smooth the jaggies up a bit the second render looks a bit chunky. Other than that good work man! Keep it up. Are you planning on implementing the model somewhere or is it just a random model?

[TRUCKIN]

Random.

[future man]

Ha, did you add a safety?

[TRUCKIN]

Heres my new model. I found out how to make lenses.:D

[TRUCKIN]

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[future man]

I suck.

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by future man
I suck.

Yup! :D

[Odm]

Originally posted by future man
I suck. The gun needs a hole at least...

[TRUCKIN]

This took me 7 hours to make.

[TRUCKIN]

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[TRUCKIN]

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[Odm]

Originally posted by TRUCKIN
2
The butt of the gun looks odd...

[TRUCKIN]

Originally posted by Odm
The butt of the gun looks odd... I know.

[future man]

Kick ass man, it's hard to believe you're fairly new to modeling too.

[ReDeeMeR]

Damn those look good man, do you know any good tutorial sites?
Most of I know are either making some abstract "whatever" or way to complex for me(with hair and skin tones etc).

[TRUCKIN]

Originally posted by ReDeeMeR
Damn those look good man, do you know any good tutorial sites?
Most of I know are either making some abstract "whatever" or way to complex for me(with hair and skin tones etc). Ive just been mainly reading the tuts that come with maya. I use Photo Shop to make textures.

[Hobbes874]

Nice models :D I used 3ds max for hella long time then I just lost intrest :(

[future man]

Originally posted by Odm
The gun needs a hole at least...

Does it look anywhere near finished to you? And I think I will put a "hole" on the gun.

[Odm]

Originally posted by future man
Does it look anywhere near finished to you? And I think I will put a "hole" on the gun. Ok ok, I'll shut up.

[TRUCKIN]

New.

[TRUCKIN]

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[future man]

Originally posted by Odm
Ok ok, I'll shut up.

I just hadn't had any caffeine, I was being bitchy.

[RADiator]

Originally posted by TRUCKIN
New. HEEEY that’s a good one! Great work man! Keep it up!

[TRUCKIN]

Originally posted by RADiator
HEEEY that’s a good one! Great work man! Keep it up! Thanks man, Im working on a truck right now.

[cr3am]

I made this a long time ago with Milkshape

http://asdf.onestop.net/g36c.jpg

[future man]

That's really nice dude.

[TRUCKIN]

Has anybody heard of Softimage XSI? If so tell me (edit: If its any good.). I read an article in popular hotrodding, this guy used this program to model a really nice car. He said that it was great for modeling cars.:D;)

[future man]

There we go :)

[TRUCKIN]

Man the model im working on now is kicking my ass.

[Slipknot]

What's maya and where can i get it?

Is there some place i cand download photoshop?

[future man]

Is there some place you can ask about pirating software? I know this isn't one.

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

can u make 3d tits?

[Slipknot]

What's the latest version of photoshop?

[RADiator]

Originally posted by Slipknot
What's the latest version of photoshop? 7.0

[Slipknot]

Thanks RAD.

[Yian]

It'a actually 7.0.1, if you update it. ;)

[matt]

Originally posted by TRUCKIN
Has anybody heard of Softimage XSI? If so tell me (edit: If its any good.). I read an article in popular hotrodding, this guy used this program to model a really nice car. He said that it was great for modeling cars.:D;)

This is what they are using for HL2. From what I have seen it is pretty good but I haven't had a chance to try it yet. Valve is trying to convince softimage to release a free version (like gmax is a free version of 3d studio max) for the mod community.

[TRUCKIN]

Originally posted by matt
...Valve is trying to convince softimage... hmm... softimage is a program I think you mean Avid.

[matt]

Originally posted by TRUCKIN
hmm... softimage is a program I think you mean Avid.
yeah...you know what i mean...:D

[Rohan]

hey truckin I reaaalllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyy wanna learn making 3D images. Is it hard? Do i need sum special computer education or sumthin to understand it?

[RADiator]

Originally posted by Rohan.com
hey truckin I reaaalllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyy wanna learn making 3D images. Is it hard? Do i need sum special computer education or sumthin to understand it? All you need to be is to be willing to learn. There are tons of tutorials out there. Plus every 3d design software comes with a huge "read me" file to get you started.

[Rohan]

Ok! thanks RAD! :) but, Ive just checked the prices for 3D rendering pograms and hell they expensive!!! ... Oh well Kaz... :D

[RADiator]

Originally posted by Rohan.com
Ok! thanks RAD! :) but, Ive just checked the prices for 3D rendering pograms and hell they expensive!!! ... Oh well Kaz... :D Please don’t. Believe me you will find nothing but disappointment on Kazaa. There are some products that are being free distributed. Take Maya for instance. Its professional it comes with a lot of materials to get you started and most importantly it’s FREE. Here is the link:

http://www.alias.com/eng/products-services/maya/maya_ple/index.shtml

[Rohan]

Wow free! thanks again, downloading it now.
Yeah fake files are annoying.

[matt]

hmmm never knew there was a free version of maya.

anyhoo here's some more:
- gmax (http://www.discreet.com/products/gmax/) is a free version of 3d studio max.

- milkshape (http://www.swissquake.ch/chumbalum-soft/) is another popular 3d modeler.

- blender (http://www.blender3d.com/), don't know much about this one.

[Odm]

Can I run Maya on Windows ME with only 256 MB RAM, as compared to what they say I need (ie Windows 2000 or XP and 512 MB)?

[RADiator]

Originally posted by Odm
Can I run Maya on Windows ME with only 256 MB RAM, as compared to what they say I need (ie Windows 2000 or XP and 512 MB)?
Maya requires one of the following operating systems:
Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional,
Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional (Service Pack 2 or higher)
SGI® IRIX® 6.2.15
RedHat™ Linux® 7.3 or 8.0
Apple® Mac® OS X 10.2.4 or higher (Maya Complete ONLY)

Maya requires one of the following browsers:
Microsoft® Internet Explorer® 4.0 or higher
Netscape® 7.0 or higher
Hardware Requirements
At a minimum, Maya requires a system with:
Intel® Pentium® II or higher,
AMD Athlon™ processor
512 MB RAM
CD-ROM Drive
Hardware-Accelerated OpenGL® graphics card
3-button mouse with mouse driver software
450 MB of hard disk space

[RAD]

Two lighting tests I’ve been doing for my demo reel.

Rendering: 3ds max 5.1
Retouching: Photoshop 7.0
Size: 1600x1200

CLICK (http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://dragoonlabs.250free.com/test2.jpg)
CLICK (http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://dragoonlabs.250free.com/test.jpg)

[Th3 ProphetMan]

Hi (i'm new)

Damn it RAD, how did you get that stuff done with 3dsmax, i mean, is it just that you were messing with modificators or somethin? :D

Anyway, i found this topic, and the whole 3d sections of these forums interesting so i'm gonna show some stuff here.. :D This is tha last thing i've been doing. The problem is that i only have a pic of the real pistol, does any one know where to get pics of it? (Silver slide would rock also...)

[future man]

That's nice looking, makes me feel retarded at 3ds. Welcome to the forums, it's a violent bloody place.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

this is my desk and pc ! xD, also the desktop in the screen is mine (even the wallpaper made by me!) :D :D :D

the pc itself is a crap but i got bored of working on it xD!

[RAD]

Originally posted by Th3 ProphetMan
Hi (i'm new)

Damn it RAD, how did you get that stuff done with 3dsmax, i mean, is it just that you were messing with modificators or somethin? Those where made as a lighting test renders for the animation I’m working on right now. If you want I can tell you exactly how I made them (oh and welcome to the forums BTW). I will show the model I’m working on today or somewhere later on tomorrow (still have some things to finish).

[TRUCKIN]

Well, I was working on my truck model one day when I accidently saved over it. So I started working in an engine model and it made windows crash and burn.

[RAD]

Ughh well I’m still working on the face and the feet. But it’s shaping up pretty good.

Front.

[RAD]

Back.

[RAD]

Left.

[RAD]

Perspective.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

hands looks pretty good...

well i guess there's got to be al least 30K or 40K polys :) The alpha effect on them is great, you know

in 3dstudio what i want to learn is to use radiosity, i'll take the tutorial on 3ds5 and try :) if i get some useful thing done i'll show ya.

[RAD]

Trying out new technique. Here are some mushrooms:

CLICK (http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://dragoonlabs.250free.com/divl.jpg)

*edited*

Originally posted by Th3 ProphetMan
well i guess there's got to be al least 30K or 40K polys :) Actually its 21250. But still too much to be a in game model :)

[Th3 ProphetMan]

don't think so, i've seen cars for GTA of about 40.ooo polys! and the game doesn't slowdown on my pc :eek:

[RAD]

Well I’m still adding detail to it so I don’t know what number will it be at the end. Plus its not planed as an in game model at the first place.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

by the way, what's division labs? :p

[RAD]

I was thinking of starting my own business, Division Labs was the name I came up with for the company. But after the recent happenings at the company I work for right now I got a promotion. So the Idea of my own business kind of died by itself.

[TRUCKIN]

its not done yet beyotch future woman........

[TRUCKIN]

Ok so its sorta done.... the corners are kinda jaggey.

[TRUCKIN]

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[future man]

B-e-a-utiful.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

I have to say that this model was supposed to look like the original one, but i came up with damn crappy mouth and eyes ^^ anyway hope you like it. here's an animation

Video (http://www.iespana.es/jpage/downloads/archivos/th3_wormblink.avi)

It's short and crappy but anyone who likes the game might feel inerest in this :p

[TRUCKIN]

Heres my latest work, If you dont know what kind of gun this is shame on you. I have applied this work in another, http://www.atrip.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1684&perpage=20&pagenumber=3 . I hope you like it.

[TRUCKIN]

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[TRUCKIN]

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[future man]

You're just getting better and better dude.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

yeah this one is cool, keep them comming!

[RAD]

A few bullets for my demo reel (also will feature a gun, will render it tomorrow). The textures on them are not final.

CLICK (http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://dragoonlabs.250free.com/bulet.jpg)

CLICK (http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://dragoonlabs.250free.com/bulet2.jpg)

*edited*

Originally posted by TRUCKIN
Heres my latest work, If you dont know what kind of gun this is shame on you. I have applied this work in another, http://www.atrip.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1684&perpage=20&pagenumber=3 . I hope you like it.

Needs a bit of smoothing in a few areas, non the less its very good.

[TRUCKIN]

Secksy bullets RAD, what prog is that?

[RAD]

Originally posted by TRUCKIN
Secksy bullets RAD, what prog is that? Max 5.1

[Th3 ProphetMan]

damn it boy, kool reflections.. what type of material is that? you know, straus, onisotropic, phong..

looks great

[Downfall]

cool stuff:D

[RAD]

Originally posted by Th3 ProphetMan
damn it boy, kool reflections.. what type of material is that? you know, straus, onisotropic, phong..

looks great Its metal, using custom reflection pattern.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

this is a bike i want to do for the game GTA vice city. It's not a real one.

I'll do it in hi poly and then i'll reduce the poligon amount to fit the game.

here's the bodywork (cover). (bout 13K poly) :cool:

[cr3am]

:eek:

[Th3 ProphetMan]

textured:

[TRUCKIN]

Word.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

sorry, i'm spanish, i didn't understand you
:confused:

[Hobbes874]

Originally posted by Th3 ProphetMan
sorry, i'm spanish, i didn't understand you
:confused:
If your talking about TRUCKIN, word=cool

[Th3 ProphetMan]

hare's another part of the bike..

[RAD]

What technique are you using for modelling? Looks good so far.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

i use low poly boxes and spheres which i deform and then apply a mesh soften modifier, i don't know how is that called in english exactly. in spanish is Suavizar Malla.

in the pic, the first mesh is the softened one. 4 itinerations.

the second is the real sphere which i am modeling with tools like extrude. :p

the resulting mesh is quite polished.
textures are metal with reflections and difuse map for the logo on the bike cover

metal with reflections
this is just that i was trying the material type you told me the other day :D

[RAD]

The technique is box modelling. The metal looks good too (all though I was also using a custom image for reflection). All in all good work so far, keep it up.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

last pic for now. :)

[RAD]

Oh by the way, do you have any plug-ins (like finalRender, AfterBurn or brazil)? I really need a certain plug-in and just can’t find it anywhere (I’ve already been at about three shops and sill no luck).

[Th3 ProphetMan]

i don't use plugins at the moment, only 3dsmax5.1. you can check 3dtotal.com, there are usually a few pluigins, link to their pages and so, and maybe you find some online store and stuff. anyway if you want tell me what plugins are you interested in and i can help you search for them.. :)

[RAD]

Originally posted by Th3 ProphetMan
i don't use plugins at the moment, only 3dsmax5.1. you can check 3dtotal.com, there are usually a few pluigins, link to their pages and so, and maybe you find some online store and stuff. anyway if you want tell me what plugins are you interested in and i can help you search for them.. :) Thanks for the help, but the only way for me to get this plug-is is to buy it. I'll check around the stores tomorrow though maybe they got it...

[cr3am]

Your bike model is pretty damn nice so far... but look at this concept bike. Top speed is 300 MPH, it has a modified Viper engine, it has four wheels, but close together...

http://fast-autos.net/dodge/tomahawk4.jpg
http://fast-autos.net/dodge/tomahawk6.jpg

[Th3 ProphetMan]

damnit looks kool.. although it doesn't semm to be very aerodynamic :D

how the conversion for MPH-KPH? i am used to measure speed by kph.. xD although i know 300mph must be damn fast xD

[RAD]

Upff just got the plug-in via my FUCKING neighbour! That bitch asked four beers for it... can you believe that!?! Four beers for 3mb?!?! But oh boy is that thing yummy! I'll probably post some test renders tomorrow for you to enjoy.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

but whats the plugin? what's for? render? modeling? texturing? :D

[RAD]

Rendering, advanced lighting. The plug-in is (GOD DAMN) brazil.

[cr3am]

300 m/h is about 500 km/h

[Th3 ProphetMan]

:eek: :eek: :eek: OMG! then it is really DAMN FAST..

i don'tthink there is a damn road in the worl where you can ride that fast for mora than 5 seconds :D

[RAD]

No this is not my work, but this image is the best example of what Brazil is capable of.

http://www.splutterfish.com/sf/spluttergallery/pics/336.jpg

[Th3 ProphetMan]

i've changed the name of the bike :D

[Th3 ProphetMan]

i found brazil for download somewhere but i can't get that damn license to work afterall.. isn't there any demo? i saw some public test on the official web, but it was down..

[RAD]

Originally posted by Th3 ProphetMan
i found brazil for download somewhere but i can't get that damn license to work afterall.. isn't there any demo? i saw some public test on the official web, but it was down.. What version have you found (1.0 or 1.2)? What is the file size?

[Th3 ProphetMan]

Originally posted by RAD
What version have you found (1.0 or 1.2)? What is the file size?

splutterfish.brazil.rs.v1 0 0 incl.sfmgr.for.3dsmax.win32.rar

2,08MB

v1.0.0

[RAD]

Hmmm the file size is 1MB short. Where did you get it?

[Th3 ProphetMan]

i found it on filedonkey.com search engine
-------
EDIT:

here is a schematic view of the files in the zip archive

C:.
| Readme.txt
| UAZ.nfo
| VERSION
| dir.txt
| j.txt
|
+---3dsMAX 4
| \---plugins
| light_stub.dlo
| BzShaders.dls
| BUtilityMtl.dlt
| BrLight.dlm
| brGlassMtl.dlt
| brChromeMtl.dlt
| braziltoon.dlt
| braziltestmtl.dlt
| BrazilTestFX.dlv
| brazilrend.dlr
| BrazilMtl.dlt
| brazilcore.dlu
| BCam.dlo
| b_scripts.mzp
|
+---3dsMAX 5
| \---plugins
| light_stub.dlo
| BzShaders.dls
| BUtilityMtl.dlt
| BrLight.dlm
| brGlassMtl.dlt
| brChromeMtl.dlt
| braziltoon.dlt
| braziltestmtl.dlt
| BrazilTestFX.dlv
| brazilrend.dlr
| BrazilMtl.dlt
| brazilcore.dlu
| BCam.dlo
| b_scripts.mzp
|
+---bin
| SysInfoTester.exe
|
+---docs
| license.html
|
+---extras
| \---bcam_icons
| BC_Generic35mm.bcam
| BC_Vistavision.bcam
| BC_HDTV.bcam
| BC_IMAX_MKII.bcam
| BC_Panavision.bcam
| BC_Arricam_Studio.bcam
| BC_SLR35mm.bcam
| Schematic_Eye.bcam
|
+---licensing
| | LicMgrDoc.htm
| |
| \---LicMgrDoc_files
| snap.jpg
| snap1.jpg
|
\---sfmgr
brzlic.txt
sfmgr.exe

[Chimera[NL]]

did you check the .nfo file for a serial? Cracking groups usually put them in such files.

And RAD....do you pay people beer for software? Wow....cool! I can allready imagine buying something there.
"I would like this Windows XP Pro please"
"That'll be 345 beers, sir."

O and Proph......a mile is 1,6 km.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

yes i have read averything and it tells how to set up a license and that stuff but it doesn't work.. it doesn't mater i work more for games than for realistic renders :)

[RAD]

Originally posted by Th3 ProphetMan
yes i have read averything and it tells how to set up a license and that stuff but it doesn't work.. it doesn't mater i work more for games than for realistic renders :) Are you sure? Because I can help you to get it to work.

Oh nice model BTW. One critique though. I think wheels should be wider. Other than that good job.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

well if you can help me that's great, so i can take a look at it :D

bout the wheels, in that pic they look to be thinner than they really are, but probably they aren't wide enough yet...

[RAD]

Tell me your email and I'll send you the working version.

[cr3am]

Originally posted by RAD
No this is not my work, but this image is the best example of what Brazil is capable of.

http://www.splutterfish.com/sf/spluttergallery/pics/336.jpg I don't get it :confused:

[RAD]

Originally posted by cr3am
I don't get it :confused: I promised ProphetMan that I will show the capabilities of the plug-in. And that picture describes it the best.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

i have just tried it but err wasn't it suposed to be faster? and it doesn't antialias the scene! :confused:

there a lot of panels and options there.. hehe it's like a labyrinth :D

[RAD]

Originally posted by Th3 ProphetMan
i have just tried it but err wasn't it suposed to be faster? and it doesn't antialias the scene! :confused:

there a lot of panels and options there.. hehe it's like a labyrinth :D Its suppose to be BETTER, not faster. I mean what do you think, it calculates every ray, every shadow separately, and it takes time. You can find the manual in additional help for reference. And the antialiasing can be fixed in the settings. Its purpose is to create detailed illumination and shadow calculations. So you should use it only if you want to make something to look realistic. But for the project you’re working on right now (the bike) you should use the default renderer.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

oh okay its for ilumination and those things, ok when i'm done with the bike i'll make a render and hen the low poly for in-game :)

[cr3am]

Originally posted by RAD
I promised ProphetMan that I will show the capabilities of the plug-in. And that picture describes it the best. Is that place fake?

[Th3 ProphetMan]

yeah, im afraid so :p

[RAD]

Originally posted by cr3am
Is that place fake? Yup. It incorporates approximately 1,000,000 polygons and uses brazil for rendering. You can get the full info on the pic here:

http://www.splutterfish.com/sf/gallery_view.php?photo_id=336&screen=1&cat_id=2&action=images

[Th3 ProphetMan]

DAMN IT 1 MILLION POLYS!?!!?
whoahahahah my computer would die redering that shit :D:D:D

[cr3am]

Damn man, one word came into my head: "bullshit". I dunno man, it just seems too real.

Are you gonna tell me this is fake, too?
http://www.splutterfish.com/sf/spluttergallery/pics/225.jpg


Wow, this is really good:
http://www.splutterfish.com/sf/spluttergallery/pics/72.jpg

[RAD]

No its not fake, its brazil.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

:eek: :eek: a modena!! whoho good car, the skulls definetly have to be fake don't you think? haha

[cr3am]

Originally posted by RAD
No its not fake, its brazil. not fake = real...
Originally posted by Th3 ProphetMan
the skulls definetly have to be fake don't you think? haha Eh, clay.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

er hm with clay you don't get that dirty effect.. :D

[RAD]

Calm down cr3am, they all fake ok? Now you’re happy? :) Oh and prophet about antialliasing. Its off by default, you have to change it by increasing the values in the min, max sample checkbox (try min: 1 max: 2). I don’t remember where exactly is this function located, just look around I’m sure you'll find it. Oh and be careful with this settings. Antialliasing means high-pressure, high pressure means SLOW computing.

[cr3am]

Originally posted by RAD
Calm down cr3am Calm down? Who's not calm? I'M CALM, I CAN BE CALM IF I WANT, AHH!

[Chimera[NL]]

I'm not sure now whether that Modena is fake or not but i can tell you that it has some strange things in it. Like the edge of the windscreen into the roof. It looks like it has this old Alfa Romeo chrome kinda look, which a modena doesn't have. Also some angles and sizes don't seem to be correct.

My conclusion would be fake.

btw: RAD, you allready said they we're fake but I couldn't understand if you we're just saying it to keep cr3am from yelling even more or whether the pics were really fake.

[RAD]

Can we please not use a word "fake" ok? They are not fake. They are all an attempt to model a realistic environment (a very good attempt as well). I can reassure you that all the pictures you will find on that site are cg. Hell I even saw a few of them in the development stages so believe me.

[RAD]

I’m doing my default test renders to check the capabilities of the rendering engine. Here is one of them. The scene is using two omni light sources. Advanced ray tracing technique and default brazil settings with antialiasing min:1 max:2.

[cr3am]

Originally posted by Chimera[NL]
btw: RAD, you allready said they we're fake but I couldn't understand if you we're just saying it to keep cr3am from yelling even more or whether the pics were really fake. Dudes, when was I yelling?

[RAD]

Originally posted by Chimera[NL]
but I couldn't understand if you we're just saying it to keep cr3am from yelling even more or whether the pics were really fake. Cream was joking ;)

[cr3am]

Look at the skull pic again. You see the part of the dirt that's a bit green? To the left of the middle skull is a patch that is kind of shiny. THAT is some great lighting. Truly amazing.

[TRUCKIN]

The 360 looks real but is it an actual model? it looks like a photo

[TRUCKIN]

ok after a closer look its a model (brake calipers anyone?)

[Th3 ProphetMan]

yep its all 3d stuff..

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by cr3am
Damn man, one word came into my head: "bullshit". I dunno man, it just seems too real.

Are you gonna tell me this is fake, too?


Well it may not be shouting but it sure has a bit agressive tone to it.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

little improvments on bike :D

[RAD]

Can I see a straight rear view? I have some doubts about one part of model, but before I'll give any critique I must see the rear view.

edited

Oh and can you also post a wire?

[Th3 ProphetMan]

rear wire

[Th3 ProphetMan]

Textured Rear

[Th3 ProphetMan]

with this one it'll be easier for you to notice each diferent mesh

[RAD]

No everything is cool. No problems. Looking at the perspective view I thought it had a problem with those upper exhaust pipes. But a close up showed that everything is fine. Keep up the good work.

[TRUCKIN]

Yeah dude, badassed models.

[TRUCKIN]

speaking of exhaust heres some chrome headers.

[TRUCKIN]

the sky didnt show up in this render for some odd reason

[TRUCKIN]

3

[future man]

bitchin

[Chimera[NL]]

assholin................................sorry:roll eyes:

[Th3 ProphetMan]

wow that exhaust is really cool!

well for now i'm not working any further on the bike. I'll finish it when i'm done with some other projects.

At the moment i'm gonna continue another bike which i did for gta vice city with a friend's help (hurra for flyingvcorndog :) ).
Thanks to him the bike works in gta... well the model is here in the pic. its a YZ450F motocross bike... when this is finished i'll do a WR450 which means just add lights to this one. then i'll be back to the bike i've been doing these days. if anyone of you has got vice city try tha bike :)

[Th3 ProphetMan]

Hi
First of all i didn't make this model..
here there are some pics i took from a BMZ Z3. I found it as one of the example models that came on the program MAD-FX (http://www.mad-fx.com), a 3D editing tool with really great real time rendering. It uses cubemaps, pixel and vertex shaders, and so on. No render engine, but it's kind of cool the demo is quite limited though, you can only run it 20 times and then it's over :D

[Th3 ProphetMan]

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[Th3 ProphetMan]

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[Th3 ProphetMan]

4. (BTW the car has 324501 triangles :eek: )

[RAD]

Well the price speaks for itself ($69). Usually this kind of software is used by hobbyists. The package doesn’t seem to provide all the tools necessary for sufficient work, but still a nice prog to amuse yourself with. Oh and congratulations on the bike that is a fine work indeed.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

hehe thanks, that dirtbike is my greatest 3d achivent so far :) altough i have been helped bby a friend with the texturing and the treads in the tyres.. :D

[RAD]

Hey TRUCKIN are you planning to incorporate those headers in a model or are they just an independent project? Anyway nice model.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

this is the jsx (concept bike). today i have loaded it into vice city... of course there's a lot of job to be done, so don't expect a version or evn a beta in a week or so

[Th3 ProphetMan]

and here's the textured one :)

[TRUCKIN]

I think the stock bikes look better

[Th3 ProphetMan]

of course they look better now.. this one hasn't got even a well modeled windshield.. just wait till this one is finished :D

[Chimera[NL]]

Yo prophet you got some mad skills baby! Keep up the good work. Man, you and RAD are awesome! O and offcourse Rohan.com with PS.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

hey there! im making a new bike now, a Honda CRF450R, another motrocross bike. i'm thinking bout discountinuing that other sport bike. well here there is the new one.
this is probably going to have quite a few polys, and will be for vice city :)

BTW: This topic is dying, go one ppl post your stuff :)

[Shadow]

Anyone else feel like making a model out of many pieces molded together is like cheating?

[Th3 ProphetMan]

err..shadow, i think if you're modeling a bike which is in fact made of "many pieces" it's normal to use many pieces (or meshes) :) i feel more like its kinda difficult making this with a single mesh, man... :D

Edit:
By the way, the wheels here are the ones from my previous bike. As for the treads in the tyres, they where not made by me, but by a friend who helped me with that previous bike (the YZ450F). Thx to flyingcorndog :D

[Odm]

I like the thing floating in the air. No seriously, I know it's not done, but it looks cool, suspended there.

[RAD]

I have some stuff but I will only show it when it will be finished (modelled and textured as I see fit). I don’t know. I guess I just have this tendention for perfection. But regardless, good work so far ProphetMan, keep us posted.

[Odm]

Originally posted by Shadow
Anyone else feel like making a model out of many pieces molded together is like cheating? Umm, you do realise pretty much everything is made of pieces put together? Usually they're just bonded together somehow...

[RAD]

Not exactly. You can model a bike, a human body or any other object using only one primitive. It all depends on the artist really.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

it can be done, but if the real bike is made of several pieces then it's normal to do it the same way i think... any way i think a bke wouldn't look any good modeled from a single primitive, think or the wheels how do you animate it when the wheels are detached on the rest of the chassis? :D anyways, this bike is meant for vice city, and vice city needs several meshes!!! lol

[RAD]

Originally posted by Th3 ProphetMan
think or the wheels how do you animate Making them in the first place would be a lot of unnecessary work as well (that’s why wheels are always modelled separately). The one primitive technique is better applied to the organic shapes though. Such as human body or for example a weapon.

[Shadow]

I mean for bodies + weapons, etc, like RAD was saying. Was just thinking of them and decided to mention that in the thread. ;)

[Th3 ProphetMan]

well people this thread is definetly down these days... i'll show ya something :D

Honda CRF450R Realtime 3D Animation (http://usuarios.lycos.es/worms3/hondapre.html) :)

Edit: It might not work on Mozilla/Netscape/Any browsr but Internet Explorer, sorry for tis inconvinience, although it's not me but the plugin developer the ones to blame for this.. any open ie to see it :)

[Th3 ProphetMan]

here's a new pic of the honda crf450r. now with engine included (provisional engine, may be changed or remodeled).

[RAD]

Cool!

Speaking of bikes. Check this out. This one is called Big Toe.

http://www.dreamgate.ne.jp/nsr/pics/giant01.jpg

http://www.dreamgate.ne.jp/nsr/pics/giant04.jpg

http://www.dreamgate.ne.jp/nsr/pics/giant02.jpg

[Odm]

Originally posted by Th3 ProphetMan
here's a new pic of the honda crf450r. now with engine included (provisional engine, may be changed or remodeled). The brake on the back wheel looks odd to me, but the rest is cool...

[Th3 ProphetMan]

i know. i think i should make it again, although also from that perspective looks confusing, but yes, it certainly needs work there :)

[TRUCKIN]

yay

[RAY16]

.... O_o ....


Yes, I know I totally borked the lighting.

[RAY16]

Why are reflective things cool?

[cr3am]

Originally posted by RAY16
Why are reflective things cool? Yes.

[Hobbes874]

Hurray for raytrace!

[future man]

Originally posted by RAY16
Why are reflective things cool?
They aren't.

[RAY16]

3vs1. Majority rules. Suck it.

[Bhazard]

My transparent orb:

[Bhazard]

My reflective orb:

[Bhazard]

Well I found a bullet tutorial on the internet and gave it a shot. What do you think?:
(Keep in mind, I'm an extreme noob at 3dsmax)

[RAD]

Make the bullets less reflective. And the proportions need some work. Perhaps shrink the upper side (?) of the bullet. Other than that a very solid attempt.

[Bhazard]

I remeber you posted some bullets that you made RAD, was that in this thread?

*edit* Yea it on page 4, but the pictures dont work*edit*

[Th3 ProphetMan]

hmmm yeh i remember. i think it was here

btw where is that tutorial? are there more tutorials on that site?

[Bhazard]

I used this tutorial:
http://gamedesign.4players.de:1026/LS/Tub/Others/Tut2/ReflectionE.htm

I thought it was a horrible tutorial, not very detailed instuctions. But I'm a beginner and I managed to do it.

If anyone knows of another bullet tutorial, please post it.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

check out 3dtotal.ocm. they have a lot of interesting tutorials for 3ds max lightwave maya for beginners and experienced users. i visit that site quite often. don't expect a bullet tutorial, although with the techniques from other tutorials you would be able to make bullets and uite more interesting stuff :)

[RAD]

Originally posted by Bhazard
I remeber you posted some bullets that you made RAD, was that in this thread?

*edit* Yea it on page 4, but the pictures dont work*edit* I just red thru the tutorial to which you posted a link. And to tell you the truth I used exactly the same technique to make bullets. If you want I can post those pics again in comparation purposes. Also as Th3 ProphetMan you should go to 3dtotal.ocm, its a good site a lot of useful information there.

[Bhazard]

Im having trouble with making the bullets, maybe you guys can help.
This tutorial isnt very detailed, so I figured you might be able to clear up some questions I have.
All(Well most...) the things I did below are form the tutorial.
http://gamedesign.4players.de:1026/LS/Tub/Others/Tut2/ReflectionE.htm

First I draw the basic shape with the lines, I think Im doing it right, but please correct me if Im doing it wrong.
I not quite sure what window Im supposed to draw the lines in, the tutorial doesnt say.
I draw mine in the front panel.
http://www.angelfire.com/sk3/biohazard/bullethelp/first.JPG

Second I apply the "Lathe" modifier to both the lines, and I get this:
http://www.angelfire.com/sk3/biohazard/bullethelp/second.jpg
Sure theres some problems but I havent hit "max" yet, and thats when the real problem occurs.

Third this is where I'm having problems, when I hit "max" the bullet grows and the top opens up, it tells you to do weld to fix this.
But my bullet opens up way more then in the tutorial and the weld looks horrible, please tell me what Im doing wrong and how I can fix it.http://www.angelfire.com/sk3/biohazard/bullethelp/third.jpg

[Th3 ProphetMan]

Here's my try :)

http://prophetman.250free.com/balas.jpg

[RAD]

Here are my original bullets.

[Bhazard]

You suck RAD.... Always got to out do everyone else! :)
Awesome bullets.... and maybe... just maybe.... you wouldnt mind teaching us :D

[RAD]

Thanks. :) Well there is not much to teach really. My technique is exactly the same as the one described in the tutorial. Try to repeat all the steps one more time if your unsatisfied with your result. All though I see nothing wrong with it.

[Bhazard]

I'll keep trying, never give up! :D

[Bhazard]

Heres another try, I think these bullets have a better shape then my last ones. I know there a little dark but thats the look I was going for. How are they shape wise? I think they need to be a little taller but I couldnt figure out how to do it. I adjust the width in the "Lathe" modifier, but cant figure out how to do height. Well here they are:

[RAD]

I think the shape and proportions are just fine. Nice work man.

[Bhazard]

Thanks! :D

To make and empty shell would I just delete the top part?

Why is it so freaking hard to navigate?
http://www.3dtotal.com
None of the navigational buttons work for me :confused:

[RAY16]

New model. I changed the lighting, added a crappy carpet, and turned on shadows.

[Bhazard]

Great model RAY16!
I made the bullets brighter:

[Th3 ProphetMan]

Originally posted by Bhazard
Thanks! :D

To make and empty shell would I just delete the top part?

Why is it so freaking hard to navigate?
http://www.3dtotal.com
None of the navigational buttons work for me :confused:

it may need Ie6 or whatever. :confused:

[Bhazard]

Originally posted by Th3 ProphetMan
it may need Ie6 or whatever. :confused:

In english please :confused:

[Odm]

I think he means Internet Explorer 6

[Th3 ProphetMan]

yes. anyway im not sure if thats the problem..

[Bhazard]

Oh yea, I would have recongized this IE6, but no!!! ....you have to get all complicated with Ie6.

BTW I have IE6

[RAY16]

This is a glass I made. The shape is a little off from what a real champaign looks like, but I think I did a good job with it. Suggestions and constructive criticism welcome.

[RAY16]

omfg, i forgot to attach the image.

[Yian]

Impressive!!!! It looks so real!!!! :eek:

[Downfall]

that looks really good. especialy the middle part

[RAD]

Originally posted by RAY16
This is a glass I made. The shape is a little off from what a real champaign looks like, but I think I did a good job with it. Suggestions and constructive criticism welcome. Well you could make it thiner, to achieve more realistic look. BTW did you use default scanline render? But nice job regardless.

[RAY16]

I used the free version of brazil to render it. I'm gonna try and make a thiner version later or tomorrow.

[RAD]

Originally posted by RAY16
I used the free version of brazil to render it. I'm gonna try and make a thinger version later or tomorrow. I knew it! Very wise choice. Hmm...I thought they stopped distributing free beta version though.

[RAY16]

Originally posted by RAD
I knew it! Very wise choice. Hmm...I thought they stopped distributing free beta version though.


They put up a page saying that they aren't leting people download it but they never deleted/renamed the file on their server. I found a link on another site ( http://www.3dm-mc.com/index.php ) for the file and it worked.

For anybody that wants it.

http://www.splutterfish.com/download/Brazil_test_0_4_53.zip

[RAD]

How is the beta by the way? I myself run version 1.0. But I heard that beta is quite buggy.

[RAY16]

I havn't run into any bugs yet, but the beta does lack a decent amount of features that the full version has. I have the full version but I havn't installed it yet.

[RAD]

Ok here is a low poly model I've been working on. As you see I'm not following any specific theme, which allows for a wider (and wilder) range of improvements. What I'm looking for right now is some fresh ideas to bump up the polycount. My directed polycount is 1000 and my current is 800. So if you guys have something on your mind on how to improve it bring it on, I'm open for suggestions.

[Odm]

Originally posted by RAY16
omfg, i forgot to attach the image. Like RAD said, glass is a little thick, and I think you should have the top curve in a bit more, so that it looks more realistic...

[RAD]

Come on people, I really need some fresh ideas to finish that gun...

[Th3 ProphetMan]

i think applying chamfers in a couple of edges would imprive it a bit. also the back part of the gun could use a little work although in the pic it's not fully shown..

[RAD]

Hmm well I just started working on the back part, so theres not much to look at there now. I will address all the issues, thanks for the feedback.

[TRUCKIN]

Originally posted by Th3 ProphetMan
Here's my try :)

http://prophetman.250free.com/balas.jpg nice bullets how long did it take you to make them?

[RAD]

Originally posted by TRUCKIN
nice bullets how long did it take you to make them? I'm certain it took him 5/10 minutes max. Because that is exactly how long it took me to make mine.

[Bhazard]

RAD, I like the guns, there cool. Dont really have ideas on the shape, but I definatly thing they need to be black.

[Bhazard]

Well now that I think about it I do have some things to say about the shape.

First thing is the handle, looks kinda rigid. I think if you smoothed it out a little it would look better, including the side part. Maybe its just that one angle(see pic below).

Second, from what I can see in the picture, is that the trigger looks to wide. Again that could be just the angle in the picture. But it definatly looks to big in the picture.

[Bhazard]

Damn forgot to attach:

[RAD]

Originally posted by Bhazard
Well now that I think about it I do have some things to say about the shape.

First thing is the handle, looks kinda rigid. I think if you smoothed it out a little it would look better, including the side part. Maybe its just that one angle(see pic below).

Second, from what I can see in the picture, is that the trigger looks to wide. Again that could be just the angle in the picture. But it definatly looks to big in the picture. Actually I have just fixed the handle issue. I was thinking about making the trigger a bit thinner but I guess I just needed a perspective to realize it. Anyway thanks for feedback.

[RAY16]

I read a tutorial on UV Maping and it almost made my brain explode. Man, I have a long road ahead of me.

[Bhazard]

Not as long as mine :rolleyes:

[RAD]

Ok I adressed every issue and bumped the polycount to 1200. Next step is naturally map it and apply texture. I'll post some pics when I'm finished.

[Downfall]

to clarify something. are you asking us what we think you should edit on the gun itself or its texture when you do one?

[Th3 ProphetMan]

Originally posted by TRUCKIN
nice bullets how long did it take you to make them?

don't know i think i was about 40 minutes or so until i got a decent reflection.. the model itself was easy

[Th3 ProphetMan]

here a project i have been working on recently. its the croft mansion. i always enjoyed tr games so i thought i could give it a try.. and by now it's coming up pretty well... i'll try to make the whole mansion as seen on tr3.. don't know if i'll work on the garden also... only indoors for now

here's the pic :)

[RAD]

Very good work so far. Do you have any more renders to show?

[Th3 ProphetMan]

i think i'll have to take a lighting tutorial but it's ok for now. there are a couple of shadows to be fixed here and there but i think the rest its quite well. i have also blurred a bit them, and the clock needs work. any suggestions?

[Th3 ProphetMan]

btw, i'm looking for a good texture for the floor... do you know of any site where to get them and find them in categories? :)

[TRUCKIN]

i should start modeling again.

[RAD]

Originally posted by Th3 ProphetMan
btw, i'm looking for a good texture for the floor... do you know of any site where to get them and find them in categories? :) Why? Texture in the first pic looks quite good, but if you really want a new texture I can see if I can find something.

[Th3 ProphetMan]

Originally posted by RAD
Why? Texture in the first pic looks quite good, but if you really want a new texture I can see if I can find something.

the problem with the first texture is the mosaic effect, its a repeated patern all along the floor.. the problem with second one is i don't like it enough... although i'm thinking of adding a plain simetry reflection, that could improve the second.


and heres the last pic for today...

i ve also been working on a bed. maybe next room will be the bedroom although i have to put some more pictures and some plants in the hall.

here's the door maybe i make something more to it.

[RAD]

Originally posted by Th3 ProphetMan
...clock needs work. any suggestions? How about something like this?

http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://antiques-internet.com/colorado/antiquetimepieces/images/IG244-1.jpg

http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://antiques-internet.com/colorado/antiquetimepieces/images/IG244-2.jpg

http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://antiques-internet.com/colorado/antiquetimepieces/images/IG244-3.jpg

[RAD]

More references.

http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://antiques-internet.com/colorado/antiquetimepieces/images/IG244-4.jpg

http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://antiques-internet.com/colorado/antiquetimepieces/images/IG244-5.jpg

http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://antiques-internet.com/colorado/antiquetimepieces/images/IG244-6.jpg

[Th3 ProphetMan]

i like this clcok much better :) thx rad. i'll finish it tomorrow

[Th3 ProphetMan]

Here's the finished clock. thx rad for the detailed pics. :)