Why XBox looks better on graphics...?

[Yian]

You console fan boys don't like your forum! Show no love to your platform...! Pity! I post someting so then it doen't get axed!

Hahaha just joking... but why you guys don't post!

Anyways, I have a question on my mind about the difference between console and PC for a long time, and I think you people who play console machines might know the answer:

I saw DOA 3 in XBox. It looked great. The characters seemed to have countless polygons, the color is high, the animation is cool, and the framerate is smooth, infact, a lot smoother than most of the PC...

Why the fuck is that...! Isn't PC supposed to be better!? Then why in the name of God XBox looks better? Is there anything I ignored or consoles are really more powerful?

And, no. No any answers like "Yeah console rules. Eat that!" or any crap like that... Because I know console sucks. At least theoretically...

[cr3am]

cuz xbox is the fucking r0x0r

[NuclearWhale]

The Machine its built efficently, its made to run games and that all. Computers are for multiple tasks so there fore they dont preform at the same levels, cause they have to run things like.. windows.

[cr3am]

Originally posted by NuclearWhale
cause they have to run things like.. windows. ugh... *shutters*

[Yian]

...are...are...are you guys telling me that console is really better than PC when it comes to... to... to.... the games.....?

Nooooooooooooooooooooooo! Someone do tell me that it is not true! Please!

[TheKua]

Definately not trueThe pc definately better graphics.PC rulz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RAY16]

The reason XBOX games look better then most PC games is becuase everybody is on even ground. The deveopers don't have to dumb down the graphics so people with slower XBOX's can run it, because all XBOX's are the same. PC's are capable of way better graphics then any console out, but developers have to make sure the game can be run on low-end PC's as well as High-end PC's. If everybody in the world had the same High-end PC parts then all games would look like DOOM III, UT2K3, and whatever new PC games coming out soon that have good graphics look like. And also because (like stated above) XBOX is built for gaming, and watching DVD's only. It doesn't have to do all the stuff PC's do.

[Yian]

Yeah... That helps a lot, Ray. Thanks. I knew PC is better. But, still, how do you explain the smooth framerates I saw in XBox? If the games were toned down in order to fit all type of PCs, then why PC still look not as smooth...?

[cr3am]

Originally posted by Yian
Yeah... That helps a lot, Ray. Thanks. I knew PC is better. But, still, how do you explain the smooth framerates I saw in XBox? If the games were toned down in order to fit all type of PCs, then why PC still look not as smooth...? different graphics cards

[|)U(|(0F|)3@TH]

Originally posted by Yian
...are...are...are you guys telling me that console is really better than PC when it comes to... to... to.... the games.....?

Different PC's too. Xbox is better than a PC with 733MHz P3, 64MB ram, GF3 GPU. No Windows hogging its resources.

Also, I understand that fighting games are not nearly as resource-intensive as other genres (like FPS & other true 3D games).

[Yian]

Gee... you're right... Fighting games has nearly no levels, no items, so they can focus all the shit on the characters!

[RAY16]

DAO3 as pretty big levels, you can knock people to other sections of the stage and whatnot.

[Yian]

The level I'm talking about here is something like GTA3...

[NirvanaFan2006]

gta3 has shitty graphics tho.

[cr3am]

only shitty graphics in GTA3 was the people... on computer it was AWESOME, on PS2, there's like 15 fps

[Yian]

GTA3's cars looked good. And there are so many cars! No wonder it gets sluggish in console...15fps lol!

[cr3am]

no wonder it gets sluggish *in PS2*

what? you think HALO would do well on PS2?

[NirvanaFan2006]

halo would suck on ps2 because it couldnt handle the graphics at a decent FPS. and the controler wouldnt be too great for it.

[Shadow]

Xbox graphics aren't generally as good as PC graphics... and any odd games that excel PC graphics are because PC gmaes are made for the Lowest Common Denominator computer - if the games were actually made for the 64mb+ video cards, the grpahics would wipe the consoles off the market... but, alas, we have joe-cheapo with a p550 [ironically, what im writing this on - my laptop - PC runs on a P4 2.2ghz w/ a ti 4600 - see comp spec thread for more] and a 16mb video card. Just because the copmanies want the $$$ from the wider range of computers - they don't even bother to have optimization for better computers like my desktop. Really sucks nowdays.

Damn you Video and Comp Game vendors!

[cr3am]

Originally posted by Shadow
Xbox graphics aren't generally as good as PC graphics... and any odd games that excel PC graphics are because PC gmaes are made for the Lowest Common Denominator computer - if the games were actually made for the 64mb+ video cards, the grpahics would wipe the consoles off the market... but, alas, we have joe-cheapo with a p550 [ironically, what im writing this on - my laptop - PC runs on a P4 2.2ghz w/ a ti 4600 - see comp spec thread for more] and a 16mb video card. Just because the copmanies want the $$$ from the wider range of computers - they don't even bother to have optimization for better computers like my desktop. Really sucks nowdays.

Damn you Video and Comp Game vendors! xbox graphics aren't as good as a Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR, with 1 GB DDR RAM, and a AMD Athlon 2700+. Compare splinter cell on computer wihtout that machine, and splinter cell on xbox.

[Shadow]

Like I was saying, Computer graphics are generally better - but aren't good enough.

[Yian]

Originally posted by cr3am
xbox graphics aren't as good as a Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR, with 1 GB DDR RAM, and a AMD Athlon 2700+. Compare splinter cell on computer wihtout that machine, and splinter cell on xbox.
wow... this rig is quite expensive to build...!

[Shadow]

The cost is well worth it... I'd like to see 3ds max or equivilant on the Xbox. :)

[cr3am]

Originally posted by Shadow
The cost is well worth it... I'd like to see 3ds max or equivilant on the Xbox. :) it won't be in three months :p

[Smapdey]

I just play my gamecube. It's so cute. And the graphics are very nice, and very, very animated. It didn't try to be realistic, it tried to look cool and it succeeded. It doesn't look nearly as nice as the Xbox in some catagories, but when you get down to animation and quality of games, it rules.

[cr3am]

hey smapdey... penis

[RAY16]

halo would suck on ps2 because it couldnt handle the graphics at a decent FPS. and the controler wouldnt be too great for it.




PS2 couldn't handle it at all, unless they downgraded the graphics to a level where they look worse then a log of shit. PS2 does not support bumpmapping, and this is one thing halo uses a LOT of, I'm also sure halo uses some pixel shader effect too (another thing PS2 does not have). Not to mention the high poly models and the huge out-door enviroment's. GameCube is probably the only console that could handle halo, because i think it's ATi card has pixel shaders and bummapping.

[Shadow]

Well... keyboard and mouse combo owns two seperate control pads... case closed :D I prefer nice graphics and a keyboard + mouse to the Xbox controller anyday - I'd be amazed to see an Xbox FPS'er pro beat an average PC FPS'er.

[Hobbes874]

If everyone who owns a PC had a p4 3.06 Ghz with a 128 mb video card then developers could design games using all of the might of the PC. get where i'm comming from? because everyone on earth has a different level of computing power.

[cr3am]

Originally posted by RAY16
PS2 couldn't handle it at all, unless they downgraded the graphics to a level where they look worse then a log of shit. PS2 does not support bumpmapping, and this is one thing halo uses a LOT of, I'm also sure halo uses some pixel shader effect too (another thing PS2 does not have). Not to mention the high poly models and the huge out-door enviroment's. GameCube is probably the only console that could handle halo, because i think it's ATi card has pixel shaders and bummapping. you guys, all this was my whole point :rolleyes: