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cr3am
March 3rd, 2003, 09:22 AM
i need a good grafix card (Nvidia or ATI only) with 128 MB DDR and TV-OUT. Under $150, but the cheaper the better.

I live in america, and i need someplace reputable (sp?)

Smapdey
March 3rd, 2003, 09:31 AM
Go to the store, dump a whole bunch into a cart and run like hell.

Adiamante
March 3rd, 2003, 09:31 AM
Check out http://www.newegg.com

Greatest site ever. That and Ebay. But I've bought over 50K of stuff from newegg and never a problem in all that stuff.

JerraMaya
March 3rd, 2003, 10:17 AM
Get yourself Geforce 4200Ti it has TV out option and its DDR too , or if u like Ati then get yourself Radeon 8500 or better , if u want to spent more wait for Geforce FX ok and then buy it

DePh1Le
March 3rd, 2003, 11:40 AM
Wait for Radeon 9800. Comes out begining of May and will be around 200$, but worth the money. Will be 40% faster than 9700, and hella faster than the Geforce Ti 4600.

cr3am
March 3rd, 2003, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by DePh1Le
Wait for Radeon 9800. Comes out begining of May and will be around 200$, but worth the money. Will be 40% faster than 9700, and hella faster than the Geforce Ti 4600. $200 for a new card?!?!? almost all new cards cost at least $300. can you gimme a link?

Medium-T
March 3rd, 2003, 06:00 PM
he might be thinking 9200 not 9800

ReDeeMeR
March 3rd, 2003, 10:40 PM
yeah it'll be around 400$ min, they use DDR-II

Shit I need that 9800PRO mmmm it's gonna bitch-slap Geforce FX so hard mmmm

DePh1Le
March 3rd, 2003, 11:49 PM
9800 isnt useing DDR2, and its expected to be 175$ cheaper than Geforce FX. The 9900 is a different story. This one has 256mb DDR2 and is gonna cost 450$.

Yian
March 4th, 2003, 01:20 PM
No need for 9800! In my view, 9700 is just enough for 2003-04. Of course... with a perfect combination of a good CPU and a really good, powerful, power supply.

What you really should do is to wait 'till 9800 comes out, and a pricedrop of all privious cards is expected. That's the time you go for 9700! So far, I'm assuming that you will buy a ATI card... get ready for all those driver tweaking, patching, blabla shit to make it work perfectly, or go with nVidia.

About the power supply... I wasn't joking. No matter what you get, these new cards are real juice suckers. You still want your machine to boot up, right?

I have a 3D prophet 9700 pro, a Hercules card, basically a 11% overclocked Raeon 9700 pro. It consumed way too much power my computer ran into a lot of shit. I graqbbed a Radeonator from www.rage3d.com ,and tone down the card's speed by 40%. Now it worked perfectly... which goes back to my first topic, I can play UT2003 with all the details to the highest, all the AA and 32-bit color with smoking fps! So is it with GTA3! Why need a 9800 when a 60% 9700 can just do fine!

cr3am
March 4th, 2003, 05:51 PM
i hate having to worry about drivers and updates and best ones and stuff. i just like downloading it once, getting it any time something doesn't work

so i should go with nVidia's Ti4200 w/TV-Out?

sushi128
March 4th, 2003, 06:00 PM
if you're goin for "the cheaper the better" route, i'd say the radeon 8500 is the best deal there is. on the other hand, if it's around $150 u want, u can't beat the Ti4200. if u want to take your chances with the sapphire 9500, you've got a reportedly 1 in 3 chance of getting that into a 9700.

Yian
March 5th, 2003, 12:03 PM
Well... nVidia has as much driver tweaking and updating as ATI's cards... But they are "positive tweakings," which means the card works itself, but tweaking just make them work better if you know what you are doing.

ATI's tweaking, however in my expreince, are most likely to be "negative tweakings," means you either tweak it or it's not even gonna work properly. I use ATI card now 'cause it is fast. But I really miss my nVidia card and really hated when they screwed up on GeForce FX.

Yian
March 5th, 2003, 12:05 PM
If you are choosing between nVidia and ATI under $150, nVidia definetely rocks. ATI doesn't start to work hard untill recently.

ReDeeMeR
March 5th, 2003, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by DePh1Le
9800 isnt useing DDR2, and its expected to be 175$ cheaper than Geforce FX. The 9900 is a different story. This one has 256mb DDR2 and is gonna cost 450$.


Ummm No, it uses DDRII, the 9800PRO uses DDRII and 9800 uses DDRI. Dont even think about 450$ for 256 DDRII what are you smoking? Must be good stuff.

F4LLeN
March 5th, 2003, 04:38 PM
i got radeon 9700 atlantis pro and it runs great, not as great as i would of expected but it runs pretty well, but i had some problems with it when i put in my ASUS A7V8X, mainly it locked up in games :< fixed with new drivers tho =]

Hobbes874
March 5th, 2003, 05:17 PM
Yeah, Newegg has some pretty good stuff, I'd check there but it'll be hard to find a 128 MB card at that price new

Yian
March 6th, 2003, 12:08 AM
Someone really have to go comfirm if 9800 really gonna use DDRII or not. If it does, nVidia will be in a much deeper shit than I thought...!

ReDeeMeR
March 6th, 2003, 03:28 PM
Ok my bad, my sources sucked that day, 9800 will use plain DDR, but clocked pretty high 680Mhz , but there will be a version with 256mb and DDRII wich will cost 499$....

Yian
March 7th, 2003, 11:19 AM
DDRII or not, the reason 9700 beats the shit out of GFX is because of the bandwith it has. Raw power beats the chipset here! If nVidia can just double the amount of ram they have on GFX, they might get a really good result instead of a 11% lead of performance at some points, 20% behind at some points...

Yian
March 7th, 2003, 11:20 AM
680 mhz... isn't that twice as much than 9700...?