Ex Pirater

[TopSecretBoy]

I've made a decision. I am no longer going to pirate games. I've just been thinking of how it really IS a wrong thing to do and a lot of company's deserve more respect than that. Maybe it's just my conscience getting to me, and I know just me not pirating anymore won't make a big differance at all, but I'm just not going to do it anymore. Like when I read about how Unreal 2 did so bad at the sales, yet EVERYONE'S played it. The game got pirated to hell. That cost Epic millions. PC gaming isn't just a hobbie for me, it's a part of my life. And I don't want it to die out (Like it's starting to) because company's aren't getting millions of dollars that they should be. Now, I'm not going to go around reporting FTP sites and what not, people can do what they believe is 'ok' I suppose. But today, I stop.

[RAY16]

For me pirated software is full featured demos. I don't want to spend $50 on a pile of crap, and if the game companies don't like it they can lick my balls and go to hell. If I think their game deserves my money i'll buy it.

[Slipknot]

Hey man I dont pirate games at all, just dl songs and shit like that. I dont give a shit if the people dont like it, they should have made sure there was no way to burn or dl it in the first place!

And this topic is probably just going to lead to a flame, I have seen this one in the off-topic section like 3-4 times while I have been a member... and the shit is just DUMB! -Excuse my second Personality, it sometimes takes me roverjdjfjfjvbnxcbnfdnbfdsjgnsd I got gas! ME like cheese! I like dead crows! I like to sniff them too! jbjbjbjsdjfjdfjjbnxb OH! there it goes again... Just comes out like that :(

[TopSecretBoy]

And this topic is probably just going to lead to a flame

- That's completely all right with me. Like I said, I'm not going to go around bashing pirates. But I'm just saying, it's the end of it for me. If I buy a bad game, it's my fault, I should have read reviews, played demo's, etc etc. I understand why people don't give a shit about the 'greedy' company's and such. But games take years to make. And after being in a MOD team or two, I've grown to respect the shit that they put up with. And the effort they put into things. Today I stop, and I stand by it.

[RAY16]

Originally posted by TopSecretBoy
- That's completely all right with me. Like I said, I'm not going to go around bashing pirates. But I'm just saying, it's the end of it for me. If I buy a bad game, it's my fault, I should have read reviews, played demo's, etc etc. I understand why people don't give a shit about the 'greedy' company's and such. But games take years to make. And after being in a MOD team or two, I've grown to respect the shit that they put up with. And the effort they put into things. Today I stop, and I stand by it.

I've read many reviews that said a game was crap, but when I played it I thought it was good. And a lot of games don't have demos these days.

[cr3am]

If I was old enough to get a job or if I simply had the money, I would buy ever game I have. But the fact is I'm not and I don't.

[Docta Beeeer]

How old are you?

[blind_mad_cow]

Originally posted by cr3am
If I was old enough to get a job or if I simply had the money, I would buy ever game I have. But the fact is I'm not and I don't.

diddo!

[Hitman]

There is no problem with pirating game... if you read the readme that comes with warez it clearly states that if you like the game/software then you should go out and support the company by purchasing a legit copy... obviously Topsecretboy you feel guilty because you have been pirating much shit and NOT purchasing legit copies or you would NOT have came to this decision... it's ok your busted you thief, just do it... it's ok to shoot yourself.

[TopSecretBoy]

There is no problem with pirating game... if you read the readme that comes with warez it clearly states that if you like the game/software then you should go out and support the company by purchasing a legit copy

- I seriously doubt even half of the people actually do that.

obviously Topsecretboy you feel guilty because you have been pirating much shit and NOT purchasing legit copies or you would NOT have came to this decision... it's ok your busted you thief, just do it... it's ok to shoot yourself.

- Just like Cr3am said, if I had a job, I would. And I can't afford half the games I pirate. But I do try and purchase as many as I can. Which, in my mind, is still ripping off company's. You sir, are why company's are biting the dust. Now, I won't sit here and say that I didn't participate either, but I'm not going to anymore. And you are the of the variety of people that pirate because it's free, and not because you are obligated to.

Topsecretboy you feel guilty because you have been pirating much shit and NOT purchasing legit copies or you would NOT have came to this decision

- Wrong. Even if I warez a shit game and still don't buy it, I've ripped off the company.

There is no problem with pirating game...

- You are a moron. The more we put in, the more we get out. And as of now, we aren't putting a lot in. And, in the future, we are going to start to get less and less out.

[future man]

Sounds like you have a hardon for doing good.

[TopSecretBoy]

Extremely Geeky Comment:

You should see my D&D character.

[Shadow]

Speaking of D&D, I heard ways of getting s Pskyer at lvl 8, with 2 scythes, 2 crit imporvment feats, 1 crit improvement item, and a pskyer crit improvement spell + a fuse hands spell can have a 2 attack, 9+ crit which always does 180-190 damage per scythe. Torrasque? 1000 hp. :D

[Hitman]

You are a moron. The more we put in, the more we get out.

LOL ok take that statement to the bank kiddo, you should finally start paying for games and see how much quality you receive, I say since you don't buy games and warez all your shit then you should stfu and pay then talk shit to others.. sure some companies put out quality products but then again the gaming industry is just a business... some care about quality but most companies are looking out for their own ass and it's all about how much can we make, also.. if you're worried about not paying for "shit games" then feel free to spend your hard earned money on shit games, I don't call that smart and I fail to see the logic behind such a decision but more power to you kiddo.

Regardless of what you say it's just and still will be guilt.

[TopSecretBoy]

you should finally start paying for games and see how much quality you receive

- I've been paying for my games from 1996 tup untill late 2002. Don't educate me on buying games. I bought Doom with my own lunch money.
I fail to see the logic behind such a decision

- You don't pay attention to detail do you? Company's make a lot of their money off of shit games. More money means more money in production. Games are taking millions to make now. And, like I said, the more you put in, the more you get out. You think we would have Half-Life 2 coming out if pirating was as ramped as it is now back when Half-Life 1 hit? I don't think so.Speaking of D&D, I heard ways of getting s Pskyer at lvl 8, with 2 scythes, 2 crit imporvment feats, 1 crit improvement item, and a pskyer crit improvement spell + a fuse hands spell can have a 2 attack, 9+ crit which always does 180-190 damage per scythe. Torrasque? 1000 hp.

- That is just damn sexy. :D

[Hitman]

You don't pay attention to detail do you? Company's make a lot of their money off of shit games. More money means more money in production. Games are taking millions to make now. And, like I said, the more you put in, the more you get out. You think we would have Half-Life 2 coming out if pirating was as ramped as it is now back when Half-Life 1 hit? I don't think so.


I pay attention to what makes sense... hey guess that means you don't have a inside feel to the business so don't think the solution to shitty games is to stop pirating.. if games weren't so shit from the get-go the majority of the people out there probably wouldn't pirate shit, like myself it makes no sense to pirate quality titles... then again it all depends on the person, don't be mad because your feeling guilty all of a sudden.. from the start I was doing what was right, I read the readme files, I pay for quality titles.. it's ok though welcome to the world of the paying folks.

[JerraMaya]

well the games should be around 10 dollar they wont get pirated at all what i think many people will be able to buy them and play them and profits will increase 2 , btw v get games here for 1 dollar still if original comes for 10 i will get but 50 dollars ( fuck all i am pirating it ):D

[Bhazard]

Shit I went out and bought the first HL the other day, I've played it ever since it came out but no with a real copy. I'm with RAY16 I like to try out the game first to see if it even worth it. Different people have different opinions. Shit Black and White had a rating of 9.7(out of 10) and I thought that game sucked balls. But I didnt waste my money buying a dumb game, I got to try it out first.

[RAY16]

I thought Black & White was great... For a few hours. Wasted my money on that game.

[Hitman]

After that piece of shit B&W I swore to reviews.. then I gave up on reviews and went to warez, nothing beats having a good legit quality game in your collection.. warez is just the new age version or the old school review.

[TopSecretBoy]

if games weren't so shit from the get-go the majority of the people out there probably wouldn't pirate shit

- Games weren't shit from the get go. Look at Half-Life. Greatest game made so far in my opinion. Doom was great too. Hell, even SIN was pretty awesome. :)

I pay attention to what makes sense... hey guess that means you don't have a inside feel to the business so don't think the solution to shitty games is to stop pirating

- That was a bad statement. You know how much they've lost to pirated games? 3 billion. Now, considering in 2002 they made 9 billion, that's a pretty large chunk out of their profits. Research the shit man, don't just guess. If you want 'sense', it's right there.

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

we pirate games because we have to.. we dont have the dough to shell out on games.. we dont have the dough to get it shipped and we dont have decent enough cable to actually play on the internet.. the dude who brings in the game from states or something does over at least 200,000 gamers here in our country a favor.. and we cannot possibly decrease your sales since you do not spend a dime releasing games over in our country..

Pirating is the only way for us and gives us a good time.. you try and live without video games dude and then you will know!

as for pirating in the US i agree w/ Ray16 on this one.. if you like the game.. like Ray16 loves Halo and should get it and IS getting it.. that is the way to go.. I personally did not like it enough to warrant a purchase and since I cant play multi and all.. so its different for different person.. Piracy is wrong only as long as you are sure that your money couldve helped the developer and/or publisher and it didnt!

[Hitman]

Hey TopSecret when I said get-go I didn't mean since game were being made, I meant from the time a specific game was created.. like say for instance Bikini karate babes or others that don't live up to the hype like say the Matrix game.
People are sick of paying for shit games and I can't blame them, the only way I see piracy being cut to any level is for them to create really good quality games worth the money or better yet to lower the price, kinda like the music industry is doing with their music.. I was damned if I was going to spend $19 bucks on a cd if I could get it for free, now that they came to their senses and lowered the prices around the $9 range it's more worth it, plus why would I want to support some clown into buying 6 houses all over the world, he'll prob end up spending my money on coke anyway so fuck that.. anyway the game industry needs to re-evaluate the situation and come up with a smart alternative to fighting piracy... basically they can't beat it so just work with it and go around it, it's said that there will always be a way to beat the system don't matter what it relates to.. I think that's true.

[SaintDL]

Originally posted by TopSecretBoy
I've made a decision. I am no longer going to pirate games. I've just been thinking of how it really IS a wrong thing to do and a lot of company's deserve more respect than that. Maybe it's just my conscience getting to me, and I know just me not pirating anymore won't make a big differance at all, but I'm just not going to do it anymore. Like when I read about how Unreal 2 did so bad at the sales, yet EVERYONE'S played it. The game got pirated to hell. That cost Epic millions. PC gaming isn't just a hobbie for me, it's a part of my life. And I don't want it to die out (Like it's starting to) because company's aren't getting millions of dollars that they should be. Now, I'm not going to go around reporting FTP sites and what not, people can do what they believe is 'ok' I suppose. But today, I stop.


but i wanted to pirate the games of companies i hate. like EA which fucking clones programmers to produce and produce endless medium quality products for the average peasant. join me my friends pirate EA products

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

Originally posted by SaintDL
but i wanted to pirate the games of companies i hate. like EA which fucking clones programmers to produce and produce endless medium quality products for the average peasant. join me my friends pirate EA products

we do it all the time.. so be at ease bro ha!

[JerraMaya]

Originally posted by WhoGivesARatsAss
we do it all the time.. so be at ease bro ha! yeah everything inluding EA is pirated with pleasure :D

[future man]

Hell, I didn't even pay for the original HL.

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

Hell! I didn't even pay for anything legit!

[TopSecretBoy]

Hell, I didn't even pay for the original HL.

- You lost all respect on that comment. :D


And as I said before, you guys go ahead and pirate stuff. Be the leeches of society. I'm going to pay for my games, and enjoy them.

[Bhazard]

I've decided I'm not going to pirate games either. Shoplifting is much easier, plus I get the original game.

hehe j/k
:D

[TopSecretBoy]

I've decided I'm not going to pirate games either. Shoplifting is much easier, plus I get the original game.

- It's so easy to shoplift from Costco it's not even funny. Just put the box right against the bottom of your shirt, rip it open, put the discs in your shirt, and slide the box back into position and walk out of the store. I was a bad boy. :)

[SaintDL]

i once stole 30+ games from a shopping mall. but i suspected they began to feel something wrong. i told my friend to go but he wanted to go in. fuck him. i kept all the discs there.

fuck him. he simply ignore me and said ur too paranoid

[comlink]

Originally posted by RAY16
For me pirated software is full featured demos. I don't want to spend $50 on a pile of crap, and if the game companies don't like it they can lick my balls and go to hell. If I think their game deserves my money i'll buy it.

I always called them "full version demos", myself.

[future man]

Originally posted by TopSecretBoy
- You lost all respect on that comment. :D


And as I said before, you guys go ahead and pirate stuff. Be the leeches of society. I'm going to pay for my games, and enjoy them.
Your just a self righteous little shit since you made the decision not to pirate, aren't you? You may just want to pull your head out of your ass for just a moment and think about what you're saying.

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

what future man said :D

[Shadow]

That was a bad statement. You know how much they've lost to pirated games? 3 billion. Now, considering in 2002 they made 9 billion, that's a pretty large chunk out of their profits. Research the shit man, don't just guess. If you want 'sense', it's right there.

Dude, they're talking like the RIAA does - the RIAA claims they've lost billions upon billions, but that's only when you consider every song at. what? $125,000 or $150,000. Those are potential losses, and even then they are not all that accurate.

[cr3am]

Heh, don't worry about it (edit: the double post) Shadow.

It is true that they're losing money because of it, but it's also true that more people are playing each game. But they're still losing money. Lots of money. When Jedi Academy came out, and when Halo PC came out, there were 4,000 people downloading each one (Yeah, I could see the number). That's just from one source, and just from one day. I'd guess that over 7,000 people downloaded each one from that site, and then there's also other places.

Don't act like they're not losing money, because they are. I know what I'm doing is wrong, and I know I'm doing it because I have to. As soon as I have a job I'm going to stop pirating everything all-together.

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

you forgot to mention that around or over 50% of the people live in third world countries and download because we have to.. so they arent losing as much as you think they are!

[blind_mad_cow]

like ive said before. if i had the money i would...its alot simpler and sometimes quicker just to go out and buy the damn game. but i am poor so i must take the "cheap" way of getting pleasure. (other than hookers i mean)

[future man]

Originally posted by blind_mad_cow
like ive said before. if i had the money i would...its alot simpler and sometimes quicker just to go out and buy the damn game. but i am poor so i must take the "cheap" way of getting pleasure. (other than hookers i mean)
You mean blow?

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

Originally posted by future man
You mean blow?

LMAO!.. haha!

[cr3am]

Originally posted by WhoGivesARatsAss
you forgot to mention that around or over 50% of the people live in third world countries and download because we have to.. so they arent losing as much as you think they are! And I'm sure so many people in third world countries have computers, internet, and even broadband!

Although this was sarcastic, if I'm wrong in the sarcasm, please correct me.

[Hitman]

Ok so maybe they are 2nd world.. lol if there is such a thing.

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

actually many people now have more computers around here than you think they have.. so you are kindof wrong.. and cable is spreading.. all over india, china, bangladesh, sri lanka and so on and so forth.. hell russia even.. plenty of pirates there!

[Odm]

I never pirated games, and I'm not going to pirate music. It's theft, and most people don't have an excuse..

[TopSecretBoy]

Your just a self righteous little shit since you made the decision not to pirate, aren't you?

Yes, I am. You stated that perfectly.



Dude, they're talking like the RIAA does

No, they are not. The RIAA considered every song to be equal to the price of the CD that contained it. So their numbers were off. When you do it with computer games, it works out.



I know what I'm doing is wrong, and I know I'm doing it because I have to. As soon as I have a job I'm going to stop pirating everything all-together.

Exact same for me. I've got my first job, and I am no longer pirating games.

*Edit*
I work at a local hardcore computer store. Just so no one cracks any jokes about what my job could be....