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homoclubitus
October 28th, 2003, 05:29 AM
1940 Italy invades Greece

On this day in 1940, Mussolini's army, already occupying Albania, invades Greece in what will prove to be a disastrous military campaign for the Duce's forces.
Mussolini surprised everyone with this move against Greece; even his ally, Adolf Hitler, was caught off-guard, especially since the Duce had led Hitler to believe he had no such intention. Hitler denounced the move as a major strategic blunder. According to Hitler, Mussolini should have concentrated on North Africa, continuing the advance into Egypt. Even Mussolini's own chief of army staff found out about the invasion only after the fact!
But despite being warned off an invasion of Greece by his own generals, despite the lack of preparedness on the part of his military, despite that it would mean getting bogged down in a mountainous country during the rainy season against an army willing to fight tooth and nail to defend its autonomy, Mussolini moved ahead out of sheer hubris, convinced he could defeat the Greeks in a matter of days. He also knew a secret, that millions of lire had been put aside to bribe Greek politicians and generals not to resist the Italian invasion. Whether the money ever made it past the Italian fascist agents delegated with the responsibility is unclear; if it did, it clearly made no difference whatsoever-the Greeks succeeded in pushing the Italian invaders back into Albania after just one week, and the Axis power spent the next three months fighting for its life in a defensive battle. To make matters worse, virtually half the Italian fleet at Taranto had been crippled by a British carrier-based attack. Mussolini had been humiliated.

Yian
October 28th, 2003, 06:27 AM
What a dumb move. What's the point to invade Greece anyway when North Africa isn't even taken care of.

Chimera[NL]
October 28th, 2003, 08:47 AM
Wow, that is some introduction post!

Downfall
October 28th, 2003, 09:17 AM
you learn something new everyday..unfortunately you forget something old..that was my favorite childhood memory you pushed out of my head you BASTARD!!!

Shadow
October 28th, 2003, 04:52 PM
My grandfather fought against the invaders in Greece. :cool:

Bigolli
October 28th, 2003, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Shadow
My grandfather fought against the invaders in Greece. :cool:

why should we believe that!? huh!? nothing to back you up hey? i thought so!
anyway another pointless fact!

Downfall
October 28th, 2003, 05:23 PM
*writed down pointless fact in my Useless crap book*

Shadow
October 28th, 2003, 07:29 PM
*added point* He took a bullet above his left shoulder bone [damn close to the heart eh?]

Kain
October 28th, 2003, 07:35 PM
Nice intro, too bad Mussolini was an arrogant bastard huh?
i mean youv either got to be the best, or extremly up your self to make a move like that.

mR-D
October 28th, 2003, 07:49 PM
GOD DAMN ITALIANS! I mean... whoops, I'm italian! :)

Bigolli
October 28th, 2003, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by mor3
GOD DAMN ITALIANS! I mean... whoops, I'm italian! :)

hey mor3 i just looked at your description "you are a poojabber" we always used to say that in primary school

Dying_Corpse
October 28th, 2003, 08:53 PM
wow...
welcome to 63 years ago

WhoGivesARatsAss
October 29th, 2003, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by Dying_Corpse
wow...
welcome to 63 years ago

BWAHAHAHAHAHA.. HAHAHA.. HA.. HAHAHA!

Damn that killed me! Oh dear!

and on an unrelated note.. I just noticed that it wasnt a hammer moving in mor3's avatar.. damn.. its a dude w/ a box on his head..

MrBored
October 29th, 2003, 12:26 AM
Talking about World War II gets me all horny...

cr3am
October 29th, 2003, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by WhoGivesARatsAss
and on an unrelated note.. I just noticed that it wasnt a hammer moving in mor3's avatar.. damn.. its a dude w/ a box on his head.. ... *speechless*

Smapdey
October 29th, 2003, 06:40 AM
Originally posted by cr3am
... *speechless*

Me too.

WhoGivesARatsAss
October 29th, 2003, 08:07 AM
What did I say?

ReDeeMeR
October 29th, 2003, 09:24 AM
Let's be honest, nazies were evil, but they sure did built an empire wich almost overcame the whole damn world :/

cr3am
October 29th, 2003, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by ReDeeMeR
Let's be honest, nazies were evil, but they sure did built an empire wich almost overcame the whole damn world :/ Who denied it?

Chimera[NL]
October 29th, 2003, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by cr3am
Who denied it?

Some of them, who are still alive, do. Even some of the new Germans say it wasn't a biggie. Allthough there are not many who deny it.

koster
October 29th, 2003, 10:21 PM
Another disastrous day for the third reich was the day when nazis invaded Russia (Soviet Union at that time) :)

Dying_Corpse
October 30th, 2003, 07:51 AM
yeah.. when hitler decided to spilt his army in 2 so he could send half to the soviet front... he made a BIG mistake

jman29
October 31st, 2003, 01:39 PM
Also Hitler delayed jet research. If he didnt the Germans would have had jets in 1943. A big advantage and that might have stopped allied bombing, which would let Germany build its economy.

future man
October 31st, 2003, 04:07 PM
Oh yeah, and he was a Nazi, I'd say that was a pretty bad start.

koster
November 1st, 2003, 11:26 AM
well, yeah, but you have to remember that German people (Most of them) did in fact like that, and they were ready to die for their leader, and all that.
The other stupid thing he did, is he ordered that all of the remaining and newmade ME-262's were converted into bombers (Fighter-Bombers), that made them slower, and allied airplanes (P-51's/Spitfires) were able to shoot them down. :)