Free Masons

[Yian]

Let us talk about this most interesting social club. Any thoughts on them is welcome. If you guys aren't interested I will fill in some info I have. If some of you happen to know things about them please share the knowledge. ;)

[Docta Beeeer]

I'm a member because my dad was. Can't say anything more.

[Yian]

That's it?? :confused: What does the club do usually? I heard that it helped many kids who had rough enviroments top get through their education and such, and there seemd to be many famous people in the club, too. But I was suprised by how little I know about this group until I was doing a research on the design of our dollar bills for my ad-design project.

[Dying_Corpse]

well... the first rule is that we can't talk about it...
and the second rule is that we can't talk about it

[Yian]

oh, no wonder why I know so little about it...

[Chimera[NL]]

The only thing I know about them is that I encountered them in Thief II (am I a computergeek or what, eh?) But are they like the Skulls or something?

[ghiop]

Well, if you ask a lot of conspiracy theorists, Masons are the new Illuminati, or something like that.

A general explanation, without worrying about the secrecy parts, is that the Masons, and the female branch, Eastern Star, are groups that get together and try to work to help out other people and do other good works. They are pretty heavily associated with Christianity, so that's something to be aware of, and there are rumors of prostelyzing going on.
But, pretty much all of the Founding Fathers were Masons, and, though their numbers are falling, Masonry is still a fairly popular activity.

[edit] Here you go--straight from the Grand Lodge of Indiana:
http://www.indianamasons.org/imoground/whowhat.html

[sideshowbob]

The free masons are a bunch of faggs who like dressing in gloves and inventing stupid handshakes. It was started by the english - so you know its a load of bullshit.

[Yian]

hehehe... wow, so this is what freemason conspiracy all about... new secular order, and world domination... interesting.

I agree with the idea that the America is indeed a republic which a selected group of interest get to control the entire nation while everyone believes in the dream of democracy. But one group controls the entire world for nearly 2000 years sounds just too absurd to me.

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by Yian
hehehe... wow, so this is what freemason conspiracy all about... new secular order, and world domination... interesting.

I agree with the idea that the America is indeed a republic which a selected group of interest get to control the entire nation while everyone believes in the dream of democracy. But one group controls the entire world for nearly 2000 years sounds just too absurd to me.


I think you see control to direct. The most powerful control comes from the background, from guys you've never seen or heard about and you probably never will but can still pull strings to make other do what they want. I'm pretty sure that happens all the time, and I wouldn't be surprised if it even happens at the highest levels possible.

[Freakonaleash89]

Originally posted by Yian
Let us talk about this most interesting social club. Any thoughts on them is welcome. If you guys aren't interested I will fill in some info I have. If some of you happen to know things about them please share the knowledge. ;)

I know quite a bit about them (but not everything of course). I can't tell you HOW I know anything, but I will tell you just because I can. They aren't REALLY christians though, the higher levels in the masonic lodge are purely Lucifarians. I'm not going to go into their whole history or anything, but if there is something specific that you would like to be enlightened upon just ask away and I will answer if I know.

[ghiop]

Originally posted by Freakonaleash89
They aren't REALLY christians though, the higher levels in the masonic lodge are purely Lucifarians.

What? Where did you get that? I realize you said you couldn't tell where you learned what you said you knew, but I mean, I can make up anything, as long as I don't have to cite sources. Thus the last 50 pages in a good history book. Not a textbook, a book.

[Docta Beeeer]

Next time I'm building a brick house, would someone be able to find me a free mason?

[Freakonaleash89]

Originally posted by ghiop
What? Where did you get that? I realize you said you couldn't tell where you learned what you said you knew, but I mean, I can make up anything, as long as I don't have to cite sources. Thus the last 50 pages in a good history book. Not a textbook, a book.

Well when it starts out its just about having friends and getting ahead in the business world (and helping out other christians). But as the members advance higher and higher, all the symbolism starts to take on a new meaning, and then they probably begin to realize what they are really getting into. At this point it is very difficult if not impossible to get out of, and they are basicly worshipping satan himself (the great architect, they dont refer to him as being lucifer or anything), and not God. At this point they probably wield do much power that they wouldn't want out even if they could.

They do alot of REALLY REALLY wierd stuff.

[Digital Pimp]

MJ12!

[DanTheMan]

Don't laugh, the Illuminati really do exist.

[TRUCKIN]

Originally posted by Chimera[NL]
I think you see control to direct. The most powerful control comes from the background, from guys you've never seen or heard about and you probably never will but can still pull strings to make other do what they want. I'm pretty sure that happens all the time, and I wouldn't be surprised if it even happens at the highest levels possible. nah, only in the netherlands...

[Rohan]

I studied for a year in a seminary (sucks!) and Ive learned that some masons are evil. :D at least thats what th book says. hell.