homosexuality?

[iplayguitar]

How do you guys feel about homosexuality?

[Docta Beeeer]

I don't like it, I don't support it, but at the same time I'm not against it. Let them do what they want, there's more important stuff to worry about.

[JerraMaya]

Originally posted by Docta Beeeer
I don't like it, I don't support it, .
i dont care about it

[TopSecretBoy]

Here's what I think about it:

I don't give a fuck.

[epsilon]

Originally posted by TopSecretBoy
I don't give a fuck.

[DanTheMan]

I don't like it, and I don't condone it. However, I'm not going to go out and scream DEATH TO TEH FAGZORZ!!!11 like an idiot. Let the court of law decide what is legal and what is not.

[future man]

I view it the same as I view heterosexuality, except, you know, gay.

[NiteX]

As long as they don't stare and don't talk to me in a faggot ass way, I wouldn't give a shit.

[r3n.d4n73]

I am a Christian, so I believe it is wrong.

[iplayguitar]

Originally posted by r3n.d4n73
I am a Christian, so I believe it is wrong.
yet according to smap, your gay.

[future man]

Originally posted by r3n.d4n73
I am a Christian, so I believe it is wrong.

If your god has nothing better to worry about than who fucks who, then that's a bit sad in my book.

[r3n.d4n73]

Originally posted by iplayguitar
yet according to smap, your gay.

Unless you didn't catch on, that was all a joke. lol.

[iplayguitar]

Originally posted by r3n.d4n73
Unless you didn't catch on, that was all a joke. lol.
yeah, i know dude.

[Bigolli]

i think I'm going to have to agree with Docta and Dan. Let the law decide whats right and wrong. No gay person has ever bothered me, although it does piss me off the way they try to push it onto society, like in that gayass show Queer Eye...

[Hobbes874]

I'm totally cool with gay people, perhaps I don't "agree" with their lifestyle but I'm not going to hate them for it. I actually find gay people to be pretty funny (Like Carson in Queer Eye). I think the more we're exposed to gay culture the less strange and weird it will seem for us and future generations down the road.

[MarkyMark]

Hey, the best kind of love is forbidden love!
But seriously, anything you do in your bed in the privacy of your own home is fine by me, be it woman, man, both, or neither. I think one of the reasons people don't like the idea of homosexuality is that some gay men act like wimps. Usually when one of my friends is acting like a little bitch, we beat the shit out of him. It's something that we've been raised to do. Men have to be "tough" and take charge. You can't really do that if you're acting like a sissy.
However, let me make it clear that I have no problems with homosexuality. I had a roommate that acted gay (I don't know if he actually was, but he was quite feminine), and he didn't bother me. If you're gay, then good for you. If not, then good for you.

[Phobo]

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[Freakonaleash89]

I don't support the homo lifestyle, but I don't hate them as long as they mind their own business. I don't think they should be able to raise children or get married though.

[TooDrunkToFunk]

live and let live.

just don't hit on me, or i'll hit you :).

[JerraMaya]

Originally posted by future man
my book.

book = Y WAS I GANG RAPED

[absolute_deviation]

Originally posted by Docta Beeeer
I don't like it, I don't support it, but at the same time I'm not against it. Let them do what they want, there's more important stuff to worry about.

[karny]

What about gay culture like gay parades and all that cross dressing! i don't have a problem with it if i never see it but it's fuckin all in our face these days. We have a god damn gay street that people joke about with clubs like pink pony etc, there is a gay tv program all about gay culture and at certain places you fucking see all these butch 'ladys' it's gross!

[Freakonaleash89]

Originally posted by karny
What about gay culture like gay parades and all that cross dressing! i don't have a problem with it if i never see it but it's fuckin all in our face these days. We have a god damn gay street that people joke about with clubs like pink pony etc, there is a gay tv program all about gay culture and at certain places you fucking see all these butch 'ladys' it's gross!

Pink pony? Does that have anything to do with those Ralph Lauren pink pony polos? I wear alot of Ralph Lauren, and even some purple label sometimes, but I always have avoided those damnable pink ponies. Am I right in thinking thats a sign of queerness?

[karny]

Originally posted by Freakonaleash89
Pink pony? Does that have anything to do with those Ralph Lauren pink pony polos? I wear alot of Ralph Lauren, and even some purple label sometimes, but I always have avoided those damnable pink ponies. Am I right in thinking thats a sign of queerness?

It sounds very... gay, and i have no idea if the pink pony has its name from that, i avoid that street like the plague.

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

All I have to say is..

Please dont go anal.. pussy was made for a reason!

[Smapdey]

Originally posted by WhoGivesARatsAss
All I have to say is..

Please dont go anal.. pussy was made for a reason!

Men don't have pussies, unless there's something you'd like to share with the class?

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

Men are not supposed to go anal.. atleast on other men anyways!

Btw I am cool with the lesbian shit!

[future man]

Originally posted by WhoGivesARatsAss
Men are not supposed to go anal.. atleast on other men anyways!

Btw I am cool with the lesbian shit!

Hooray for double standards!

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

I am cool with:

1) Whatever the fuck people want to do with their assholes, pussys, cocks etc and I dont fucking care

2) I am cool if a fag does not act like a fag and just talks and walks like a normal man not some girly gay way (like most gay designers)

What I am not cool with:

1) Gay marriages

2) Gay people celebrating their gay-dom all over the place because it is not good for the upcoming generations or the little innocent children

3) Gay people publicizing how being gay is the way to go because seriously it is not!

[sideshowbob]

Leave the fairies alone. By passing judgement and stereotyping the little fucks you just give them new material to sing about. George Michael should check out this thread.

[Smapdey]

Originally posted by WhoGivesARatsAss
I am cool with:

1) Whatever the fuck people want to do with their assholes, pussys, cocks etc and I dont fucking care

2) I am cool if a fag does not act like a fag and just talks and walks like a normal man not some girly gay way (like most gay designers)

What I am not cool with:

1) Gay marriages

2) Gay people celebrating their gay-dom all over the place because it is not good for the upcoming generations or the little innocent children

3) Gay people publicizing how being gay is the way to go because seriously it is not!

Oh yeah, let's not have gay people! They must be evil! Pure evil! Ahhhh!!! Watch out! It's the Dawn of the Fags! Run! Rrrrrruuuuunnnnn!!!!

I'm cool with:

1) People that aren't stupid.

I'm not down with:

1) People that are stupid.

[DanTheMan]

I love it when people say they disagree with homosexuality and someone goes "OMG UR A FAG HATER YOU THINK HOMOS R EVIL DEATH TO TEH FAG HATER!!!!1"

He said he disagrees with it, not that he thinks they are evil.

[Smapdey]

Originally posted by DanTheMan
I love it when people say they disagree with homosexuality and someone goes "OMG UR A FAG HATER YOU THINK HOMOS R EVIL DEATH TO TEH FAG HATER!!!!1"

He said he disagrees with it, not that he thinks they are evil.

I know that, but it's a funny dramatization. I can't see why anyone would disagree with it.

It being homosexuality. I mean, I think that a lot of people that hate it do so because they see it in themselves. Look at WGARA, he's clearly a closet case homosexual.

[Odm]

Originally posted by Smapdey
I mean, I think that a lot of people that hate it do so because they see it in themselves. Fuck you asshole, I'm no fag!

[karny]

Originally posted by Smapdey
I mean, I think that a lot of people that hate it do so because they see it in themselves.

Thats just what you gay loving people say as a lame defence, it don't mean SHIT.

[Freakonaleash89]

Originally posted by karny
Thats just what you gay loving people say as a lame defence, it don't mean SHIT.

I have to agree here. I actually have stuff in common with gay people sometimes, much of the time they have good decorating sense and whatnot and I'm pretty good with that stuff too. I still don't like gays, and that's not because I see gayness in myself. I'm very confident about my sexuallity, and even if I did the exact same thing queers do (I mean in a non-sexual or twitchy sense) I still woulnd't feel gay.

[future man]

Originally posted by Freakonaleash89
I have to agree here. I actually have stuff in common with gay people sometimes, much of the time they have good decorating sense and whatnot and I'm pretty good with that stuff too. I still don't like gays, and that's not because I see gayness in myself. I'm very confident about my sexuallity, and even if I did the exact same thing queers do (I mean in a non-sexual or twitchy sense) I still woulnd't feel gay.

Do they hurt you some how, or directly negatively affect the way you live your life?

[Hobbes874]

Originally posted by karny
Thats just what you gay loving people say as a lame defence, it don't mean SHIT.
Except for the "Thats just what you gay loving people say as a lame defence, it don't mean SHIT" part

[Freakonaleash89]

Originally posted by future man
Do they hurt you some how, or directly negatively affect the way you live your life?

1) Their gay pride can be quite annoying.
2) If they get married and start having kids the world will be fucked.

On the other hand they are kinda funny sometimes.

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

Originally posted by Smapdey
I know that, but it's a funny dramatization. I can't see why anyone would disagree with it.

It being homosexuality. I mean, I think that a lot of people that hate it do so because they see it in themselves. Look at WGARA, he's clearly a closet case homosexual.

Just because you agree with it and someone disagrees with it does not mean that the one disagreeing with it is a closet homo. Gay talk is funny (for me atleast) because I am a homophobe. Now get me some fags that I can squash. HARRR! GRRRR! :rolleyes:

[karny]

Originally posted by WhoGivesARatsAss
Just because you agree with it and someone disagrees with it does not mean that the one disagreeing with it is a closet homo. Gay talk is funny (for me atleast) because I am a homophobe. Now get me some fags that I can squash my nuts into their faces and rub it all around. HARRR! GRRRR! :rolleyes:

..... you don't sound like a homophobe


(read the quote again)

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

Originally posted by karny
..... you don't sound like a homophobe


(read the quote again)

Stupid sadistic asshole!

[karny]

Originally posted by WhoGivesARatsAss
Stupid sadistic asshole!
:D

[jesuskingofpeace]

Originally posted by Freakonaleash89
1) Their gay pride can be quite annoying.
2) If they get married and start having kids the world will be fucked.

On the other hand they are kinda funny sometimes.

why will the world be fucked?

In case you guys haven't noticed, your sexuality isn't a choice. :D

[karny]

Originally posted by jesuskingofpeace
why will the world be fucked?

In case you guys haven't noticed, your sexuality isn't a choice. :D

What ever, what about all the girls that are lesbian/bi to show off?

[jesuskingofpeace]

Originally posted by karny
What ever, what about all the girls that are lesbian/bi to show off?

like who?

[DanTheMan]

Originally posted by jesuskingofpeace
why will the world be fucked?

In case you guys haven't noticed, your sexuality isn't a choice. :D

Yes it is. I could choose to be gay and go out with men tomorrow if I wanted to, but I choose to have natural sex with women.

[jesuskingofpeace]

lol. gay people don't choose to be gay. Sexual attraction and sexual acts are too different things.


What do they teach kids in school these days?

[DanTheMan]

Erm, since there has been no scientifically proven "gay" gene or any other gene that causes one to be predispositioned to be homosexual, I'm inclined to believe that it is a choice. I have known a guy who was homosexual, but later became a heterosexual. Now, what kind of logic says that people don't choose their sexual orientation? I choose to be a hetero, other's choose to be homo. It's their choice, and I don't hate them for it.

[jesuskingofpeace]

Originally posted by DanTheMan
Erm, since there has been no scientifically proven "gay" gene or any other gene that causes one to be predispositioned to be homosexual, I'm inclined to believe that it is a choice. I have known a guy who was homosexual, but later became a heterosexual. Now, what kind of logic says that people don't choose their sexual orientation? I choose to be a hetero, other's choose to be homo. It's their choice, and I don't hate them for it.

so you know better than the mental health community, eh?

Forget it. Learn what you're talking about first, then debate someone. It's a waste of my time trying to debate ignoramuses.

[Yian]

Homosexuality actually is not something new to human race. But throughout the history, it is largely viewed as, well, you guessed it, improper and forbidden.

The era of Alexander the Great was a famous example in terms of homosexuality in ancient Greece. Back in the days, semen were considered as something that contains men's wisdom, thus it is believed that men back in the day pass their semen to young men's mouth to descend their wisdoms. The relationship between the erastes (lover) to the eromenos (loved one) was once believed to be out of admiration only, but recent study reveals that there is a more emotional connection than earlier researchers liked to acknowledge, backed by a huge amount love letters between these men from that time.

During Roman's rule, Almost all but one emperor has ancient texts suggesting their homosexuality sometimes even pervasive. Famous examples such as Tiberius, Caligula, Nero, Otho, Hadrian and so on had been good materials for rumors throughout the centuries. Men having sex with men were also a common practice for Roman legions when far away from settlements to satisfy their instincts.

The term "Homosexuality" was invented in the 19th century, with the term "heterosexuality" was invented later in the same century in contrast to the earlier term. Public figures such as Byron, Oscar Wilde, and Edward Carpenter all have sources suggesting the possibility that they engage certain level of homosexuality. There are also evidences suggest that in single-sex public schools in Europe at that time share this trend, though only a handful of them.

The term "bisexuality" was invented in the 20th century to define those who are not attracted to their predominated sexual identity. It is important to understand that human history doesn’t not consist of only homo or heterosexual relationships, but also the one that is defined by modern concepts of sexuality that works both ways.

[EDIT] Typos fixed for easy viewing.

[DanTheMan]

Originally posted by jesuskingofpeace
so you know better than the mental health community, eh?

Forget it. Learn what you're talking about first, then debate someone. It's a waste of my time trying to debate ignoramuses.

And when you can actually back up your arguement without resorting to personal insults, come back.

Edit - Nice post Yian.

[Rohan]

Originally posted by NiteX
As long as they don't stare and don't talk to me in a faggot ass way, I wouldn't give a shit.

Very informative post Yian.

[[CCCP] Commando]

To tell you the truth....i rather dislike gay people. Why the hell would they need to be married anyway? it's not like they could actually reproduce and if they start adopting kids and fucking them up our country will be screwed.

[[CCCP] Commando]

but...politicians should care about running our god damn country rather than care about who sleeps with who.

[Striker]

Silly narrow-minded fool.

[StormyPeak]

Originally posted by [CCCP] Commando
To tell you the truth....i rather dislike gay people. Why the hell would they need to be married anyway? it's not like they could actually reproduce and if they start adopting kids and fucking them up our country will be screwed.

Why marry, that one is easy....because they love each other...and I'm talking about the emotion....not the physical act.
They want what other people have...family -- other people in their lives that they can raise, and love and take pride in as their kids win basketball games, or get scholarships to colleges.

I see nothing wrong with that. I think because some gays are a bit deviant even by gay standards...such as the leather and chains, and the 'divas' / cross dressers....there is a perception that all gays are like that....which of course, is not the case.
Many gays are just average folks who want an average life, but because of their sexual preferences, can't and are not allowed to have that life that heterosexuals take for granted.

The world has an increasing population...a few married gays are not going to destroy the 'regular family' situation that we consider the norm. Also, they can take in children that others don't want, through the same adoption criteria that other married couples go through in order to have children.

Also, many don't know this but, in the animal kingdom, there are many many many documented cases of homosexuality. So for people who say it's not natural....they need to do some more research because it appears in nature all the time...from seagulls, to monkeys, and penquins, and some herd animals and preditors.

I'm not gay, but I know a few people who are...and no one would even know they were gay unless they hung around them for a while and realized they were a couple and have been for over 15 years. I find it sad that they can't marry even though they own a home together and have shown that they are just as commited to each other as any heterosexual couple can be.

I also don't understand why when someone else is different that means that they get hated for it. If they are not hurting anyone...such as child molestors or rapists....then what does it really matter what sex they prefer. I have other things in my life to worry about besides whether some guy is walking down the street in a dress....that's his life, and it doesn't affect me -- live and let live. If the government and religions of this country would quit poking their noses in the affairs and bedrooms of the people of this country, then things would be a lot nicer for all.

Stormy

[Chimera[NL]]

O man, this forum has waited so long to acquire a new member such as you, Stormy. Once again you prove to me your wisdom and common sense. You, me, Yian and Smap (and apperantly Striker too) are some of the very FEW that think this way. Thank god there are more people like this.

[karny]

The stuipd thing is i don't think of normal gays as gays at all, the word gay is more to do with the drag queens and sterio type fags that flaunt themselfs. I hate them, not the people that i never even know about. i could give a fuck if gays were married as long as they don't publisize themselves because it's just attention seeking. Straight marrages don't make the fucking news unless is a celebrity or some shit.

Another thing about it being not natural, (note that i don't give a fuck as per stated above) since when can't animals mutate abnormaly, the reason we call it unnatural is because it doesn't make sence in nature e.g. gays can't reproduce unless they go against their instincts.

[StormyPeak]

Originally posted by karny
The stuipd thing is i don't think of normal gays as gays at all, the word gay is more to do with the drag queens and sterio type fags that flaunt themselfs. I hate them, not the people that i never even know about. i could give a fuck if gays were married as long as they don't publisize themselves because it's just attention seeking. Straight marrages don't make the fucking news unless is a celebrity or some shit.

Another thing about it being not natural, (note that i don't give a fuck as per stated above) since when can't animals mutate abnormaly, the reason we call it unnatural is because it doesn't make sence in nature e.g. gays can't reproduce unless they go against their instincts.

Like it or not, it is a natural occurance.

Scientists are now understanding that it's not abnormal, either.
There is Room in nature for both the breeding pairs and the non breeding pairs, otherwise the natural selection process would have taken care of it millions of years ago. Nature sees these animals just like upon occassion one sees albino's or exceptional specimins such as superiour sized animal, or a runt. All of which can find a nich in their natural setting and can live quite nicely without throwing nature out of balance. It's not a good thing or a bad thing....it's just Nature.

I also question your hate -- I hope you do.
It's just such a negative feeling to live with...like walking around with a sour stomach all the time -- why would you want to do that? I would suggest that you try to relax and just let the world be the world and not worry about how others look and behave as long as it's not harmful to other people.

I admit I get uneasy when I see a drag queen on t.v. but that's probably more due to me growing up and living my whole life in a town of 3,000 in a sheltered Idaho valley. Heck, I don't think I even knew homosexuality existed until I was about 12 or 13 years old -- lol, I was 10 years old before I saw a black person for the first time, I was in a car in Boise and a black hippi with fringed leathers on and an afro was walking down the street, and I remember thinking he looked just like the guy in that movie HAIR...lol. -- that is how sheltered a life I led.

As mentioned. I don't hate them, it's just something I'm not accustomed to seeing. I shrug it off because it has nothing to do with me.

I think every HUMAN deserves the Right to live their life in any way that they see fit, as long as they are not hurting anyone.
I wished all people could dress and talk the way they want without being harrassed, beat up or even killed for it.

I read and see things in the paper about people beating up and killing gays and I'm just horrified that hate can push people into doing such things. Their hate didn't start out that great...it had to be nurtured and grown....until it got to the point that it controled the person and then someone innocent suffers for it.

Like I said. This would be a much nicer place if people just let other people be what they are and keep their noses out of other's buisness.

Who is it harming to see a gay man holding another mans hand ? or a transvestite walking down the street in a dress -- get over it...it's just clothing. It harms no one.

Also, btw IF that was the case (if people just let them be) ....don't you think the gays wouldn't have to be so "In your face" ? ? ?

They do this because they want their rights. And the only way to get that recognition is to not hide...but to point out that inspite of their looks and habits that they are HUMANS too, and thus they want their rights to marry and to be who they are.

If we just let them do that from the get go....there would be no gay pride parades, or marches or demands to make marrages legal. Problem solved.

Stormy

[Downfall]

*bows*

[karny]

Originally posted by StormyPeak
I think every HUMAN deserves the Right to live their life in any way that they see fit, as long as they are not hurting anyone.

Thats the crux of it. Everyone wants the world the way they want it, it's a humans selfish desire. But where do you draw the line of that rule? For some that line would be 'Drag queens and gay TV are hurting my right to ignore you' (because it's in your face) for others it might just be violence. I personally don't care if there are gays, i just don't like the steriotyped gay culture (from drag queens and TV programs). It's much the same kind of hate i feel for wiggers, slutty teens and preachy religious people. I guess another thing you could say i hate is the media, they are the ones that portray people and groups in that 'steriotipcal way'

Originally posted by StormyPeak
Scientists are now understanding that it's not abnormal, either.

Quite true but according to that line of thinking human thought is 'natural' and we created nuclear weapons. It's all a matter of perspective, i draw 'natures line' at what is logical i.e. gays can't reproduce and thats what sexual drive is designed for (basically)

Originally posted by StormyPeak
I also question your hate -- I hope you do.

It's not something i have to live with, my hate/anger is VERY breif and is only triggered when i see the thing i hate and gone basically 1 min after. I am always questioning that kind of thing and i have decided i like the hate. (plus i think hate may be to stong a word for what i feel)

Originally posted by StormyPeak
IF that was the case....don't you think the gays wouldn't have to be so "In your face"

Maybe, but like attention seekers (in any group) there will still be people that want to do this. I think they should have the rights that eveyone else does, as that won't effect me in the slightest.


Signing off is stuipd. (you are makeing me read a WHOLE word extra!!! did that put my hate in perspective?)

[StormyPeak]

Originally posted by karny
Thats the crux of it. Everyone wants the world the way they want it, it's a humans selfish desire. But where do you draw the line of that rule? For some that line would be 'Drag queens and gay TV are hurting my right to ignore you' (because it's in your face) for others it might just be violence. I personally don't care if there are gays, i just don't like the steriotyped gay culture (from drag queens and TV programs). It's much the same kind of hate i feel for wiggers, slutty teens and preachy religious people. I guess another thing you could say i hate is the media, they are the ones that portray people and groups in that 'steriotipcal way'


If people left well enough alone -- that being -- letting people dress the way they want, and have sexual partners they are compatable with -- then you would grow up in that enviroment and it would be considered a non-issue. It's just because people feel they have to control the actions of others that minor things become big issue. I don't know for sure, but I suspect. that you are uncomfortable with gays because I would expect others in your life influenced your bias.

As far as seeing them on t.v. Well, I don't know how old you are, but I'm 40, and I can remember a time when one Rarely saw black people on t.v. and there were some in our society that felt just like you do about gays on t.v. They didn't like it. They also wanted to regulate the black people to stereotypical sit-coms and not take them seriously as real citizens of this country. Now, with shows that show black people as doctors, detectives, scientists and such no one even wonders if it's "ridicuous" like they did back in the early 1970's. I just see the same thing over again here as far as gays. Perhaps by the time you are in your 40's you will see this in the same way?


Quite true but according to that line of thinking human thought is 'natural' and we created nuclear weapons. It's all a matter of perspective, i draw 'natures line' at what is logical i.e. gays can't reproduce and thats what sexual drive is designed for (basically)


What is illogical is going against nature...and trying to force nature to fit into our cultural ideals. Sex drive can be anything from primitive reproductive acts that houseflys do "tup and go" -- or they can be more complex with days of mating displays like peacocks do...or to the next step...intimate soul searching and loving feelings before the act itself is even committed.
Humans are designed mentally capable to follow any of those scenerios. That is Our nature.


It's not something i have to live with, my hate/anger is VERY breif and is only triggered when i see the thing i hate and gone basically 1 min after. I am always questioning that kind of thing and i have decided i like the hate. (plus i think hate may be to stong a word for what i feel)

Glad to hear that you thing 'hate' is to harsh a word : )
But, I still don't understand why anyone would like that particular feeling. I have it to sometimes...but all it does afterwards is make me wish I didn't, to me it's like being sick...something that happens upon occassion but life would be better if it didn't happen.

I enjoy reading everyone' opinions btw - we might not ever agree on anything, but at least we'll get a better idea how people look upon these different issues


Signing off is stuipd. (you are makeing me read a WHOLE word extra!!! did that put my hate in perspective?)

LOL... If I end up hanging around here...you'll find most of my posts tend to be more than a few paragraphs, and that one extra word won't seem so bad. ;)

I mentioned in another post why I do that -- sign my posts. It's a habit I got from a not so easy to navigate message board when I first got on the net a few years ago. Everyone signed just so one could keep track of who was posting.

I also happen to type very fast, and my name is typed out before I even think about it...so I just don't bother backspacing to get rid of it - it might be a bit silly, but then so am I. ;) Besides....considering I'll never bombard anyone with a huge sig picture or sig line....I don't think I'm making anyone suffer to much in them having to read that extra word. : )

Stormy :D

[karny]

Originally posted by StormyPeak
As far as seeing them on t.v. Well, I don't know how old you are, but I'm 40, and I can remember a time when one Rarely saw black people on t.v. and there were some in our society that felt just like you do about gays on t.v. They didn't like it. They also wanted to regulate the black people to stereotypical sit-coms and not take them seriously as real citizens of this country. Now, with shows that show black people as doctors, detectives, scientists and such no one even wonders if it's "ridicuous" like they did back in the early 1970's. I just see the same thing over again here as far as gays. Perhaps by the time you are in your 40's you will see this in the same way?

Thats is how i feel (tho for some reason it seems i gave the impresion i hate normal gays) i don't care if there was a gay doctor on tv (as there are) as long as they arn't prancing around going i am homo look at me fucking arse and dressing like a panzy, then i don't give a flying fuck, it's the decency that the steriotypical gay give up by forcing us to see their 'gay homo pride shit' side of things. For example that annoying little dude from will and grace, that guy pisses me off! but the other dude is fine (altho i still think that show sucks dick heh no pun intended... well maybe a little)

Originally posted by StormyPeak
I still don't understand why anyone would like that particular feeling.

Yea neither do i but there you go.

Originally posted by StormyPeak
I don't know for sure, but I suspect. that you are uncomfortable with gays because I would expect others in your life influenced your bias.

Your right i have several friends who share my point of view, altho that is a very general type of comment because people ARE effected by others.

[TheBob]

The whole gay pride thing seems a little strage to me. They march around to show the world that they are gay and proud of it, but at what cost. They sacrifice all their dignity. They are proud to be gay, but they have no pride in themselves. It just seems like a contradiction to me.

[future man]

It'd be funny if you all had queer kids.

[Chimera[NL]]

That's the only thing I dislike about some gays. They want to be part of the main society but at the same time they're trying to make their own with things like, gay pride parade, gaylympics, gay newspaper, etc, etc.

[TheBob]

Originally posted by Chimera[NL]
That's the only thing I dislike about some gays. They want to be part of the main society but at the same time they're trying to make their own with things like...gaylympics..., etc, etc.


sheesh...thats so gay.

[Chimera[NL]]

Whatevaah, girlfriend!

[MrBored]

Even though I'm not religious, one word on how to deal with them; leviticus.

[Silence]

okay this thread is full of long posts that im too lazy to read, and i have prolly posted here before but... let them fags be, but better not hit on me.

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

Homosexual Chemistry!

[TheBob]

Originally posted by MrBored
Even though I'm not religious, one word on how to deal with them; leviticus.

That certainly would stop the gay pride marches.

[MrBored]

Originally posted by TheBob
That certainly would stop the gay pride marches.

well, on the contrary they might increase, only difference is that we would be throwing stones from the sidelines and having a good laugh...

[Hitman]

Ahh the Hitman is late.. personally I know one kool fag, he works at my job.. besides that I wouldn't chill with fags but they are kool people as long as they don't touch me.

"Guys who violate another man's space should be shot" sounds about right to me.


It'd be funny if you all had queer kids.
That's what adoption centers are for.

[karny]

wow... i wrote lots of words in this thread... what was i thinking :confused:

[JerraMaya]

Originally posted by karny
... what was i thinking :confused:
thinking about me dating your mom when you are away .

[karny]

Originally posted by JerraMaya
thinking about me dating your mom when you are away .

I'm never away from my mum, she is strapped to my inner thy.

[JerraMaya]

Originally posted by karny
I'm never away from my mum, she is strapped to my inner thy.
so i dated her and molested you

[Hitman]

Fags huh... where is Dr Mengele when you need him.


He would have a field day in his labs with homos.

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by Hitman
Fags huh... where is Dr Mengele when you need him.


He would have a field day in his labs with homos.

You mean twins right? Homosexuality wasn't really something he was that interested in.

[karny]

Originally posted by Chimera[NL]
You mean twins right? Homosexuality wasn't really something he was that interested in.

What would you know, he might have been a shit loveing twin asshole fucker because he had two dicks so he could fuck both twins at the same time!

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by karny
What would you know, he might have been a shit loveing twin asshole fucker because he had two dicks so he could fuck both twins at the same time!

Ok.

[Hitman]

Yeah he did love twins.. was there fags back in those days though.. I don't remember hearing of fags back then so I meant as if they were around back then.

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by Hitman
Yeah he did love twins.. was there fags back in those days though.. I don't remember hearing of fags back then so I meant as if they were around back then.

Well yes there were and they were hunted just as bad as the Jews. He just didn't do any experiments with them to my knowledge.

[BlindInOneEye]

hi, I like teh cock.

[Hobbes874]

Originally posted by BlindInOneEye
hi, I like teh cock.
That's what she said.

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by BlindInOneEye
hi, I like teh cock.

No talking with your mouth full! Now keep going!

[BlindInOneEye]

mmphhmmmphh *gets an erection and bones you all*

[Kain]

My standing when it comes to homosexuality is that they can live their lives how they choose im apathetic towards most things that really shouldnt be too big a deal.

Secondly Homosexuality as been aroun since the Medevil times, it was common place for a man to be married and yet have a male partner, only recently has it become a big issue.

[iplayguitar]

Originally posted by Kain
Secondly Homosexuality as been aroun since the Medevil times, it was common place for a man to be married and yet have a male partner, only recently has it become a big issue.
I thought the greeks and romans were gay also

[Downfall]

probably goes back to dinosuars


http://palaeo.gly.bris.ac.uk/communication/Belton/D.family.jpg

these 2 seem to be eyeing that little one a bit too inapropriately

[Kain]

Originally posted by Downfall
probably goes back to dinosuars


http://palaeo.gly.bris.ac.uk/communication/Belton/D.family.jpg

these 2 seem to be eyeing that little one a bit too inapropriately

LOL!


Your post have a tendency to bring a smile to my face

[Digital Pimp]

Aye I'll agree with that.

[BlindInOneEye]

that reminds me, if you play porn on slow motion it sounds like dino sex :eek:

[Freakonaleash89]

Originally posted by Kain
Secondly Homosexuality as been aroun since the Medevil times, it was common place for a man to be married and yet have a male partner, only recently has it become a big issue.

It was commonplace?

[Downfall]

it was more common place then but no one really talked about it because it wasnt seen as an issue, more of a...hobby i guess:D

[Smapdey]

Well, people have, for the most part, not cared. It hasn't been a big deal. Now we have some huge thing with, "OMG FAG!! IS IT CONTAGIOUS?" It's stupid.

But, on the flip side, most people have hated Jews for the past five-thousand years, and that's outlawed today too.

We live in a fucked up world. Things that people have had no problem with are now wrong and things that people have had tremendous problems with for a long time are now right.

I'm not preaching hate here, just strikes me as funny.

[Yian]

My boss is gay. And I have to admit, his personality is quite different than what you would expect from avarage people. Nothing worng with that as I see it.

[Chimera[NL]]

I hate fags but I don't care about gays. A fag is one of those "Don't go there giiiiirl" stereotype dumbasses. They ruin the gays good name.


Also, it should be acknowledged that if your opinion is: "I don't care about gays as long as they don't look at me/ walk next to me/ talk to me/ live in the same street or breath the same air as I do", you're a retard. Same goes with: "I think fags/gays are not natural, but 2 chicks making out/having sex is hot"

[Freakonaleash89]

Originally posted by Downfall
it was more common place then but no one really talked about it because it wasnt seen as an issue, more of a...hobby i guess:D

That seems like a pretty messed up hobby. It seems so unnatural to me, but I guess it is appealing to many just because its so unnatural. Well, for some it comes naturally, but you know what I'm talking about I think. They tended to gravitate towards that because it was so messed up and sick.

[Smapdey]

Originally posted by Freakonaleash89
That seems like a pretty messed up hobby. It seems so unnatural to me, but I guess it is appealing to many just because its so unnatural. Well, for some it comes naturally, but you know what I'm talking about I think. They tended to gravitate towards that because it was so messed up and sick.

You're a sad, pathetic little boy.

[future man]

Haha, you're all gay.

[epsilon]

Originally posted by future man
Haha, you're all gay.

http://img88.exs.cx/img88/8672/yesno9hu.gif

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by Freakonaleash89
That seems like a pretty messed up hobby. It seems so unnatural to me, but I guess it is appealing to many just because its so unnatural. Well, for some it comes naturally, but you know what I'm talking about I think. They tended to gravitate towards that because it was so messed up and sick.

You actually took time to type all that and THAT is what you came up with? God, you're sad.

[karny]

WOW this thread is going round in circles :)

Hit the little numbers at the bottom and see that everything here has been said before... possibly by YOU at some previous point in this very same thread....

[Bhazard]

I can't be gay, my three inches would't make it past the cheeks.

[Freakonaleash89]

Does anyone here actually truly understand gay people?

[karny]

Originally posted by Freakonaleash89
Does anyone here actually truly understand gay people?

What a stupid question... of course no one does, people can understand some things about them but everone is differn't (yet often have alot of Similarities aswell)

[MrBored]

Originally posted by Bhazard
I can't be gay, my three inches would't make it past the cheeks.

lmfao, wd

[Roboman]

Originally posted by Bhazard
I can't be gay, my three inches would't make it past the cheeks.

Then how the hell do you have a girlfriend? And what if she wanted it up the ass?

[Smapdey]

Originally posted by Freakonaleash89
Does anyone here actually truly understand gay people?

Does anyone here really understand you? Seriously, why does it matter who is touching whose "peepee"?

[future man]

Originally posted by Smapdey
Does anyone here really understand you? Seriously, why does it matter who is touching whose "peepee"?

It doesn't, he's just really god damn stupid.

[Freakonaleash89]

Does anyone here really understand you? Seriously, why does it matter who is touching whose "peepee"?

Obviously, it does matter. This thread wouldn't be as long as it is if it didn't matter at least a little.

The reason I asked that question in the first place is because it irritates me that alot of you people here can point out something that is wrong, but not take the time to really say anything about the subject.

Why even take the time to ridicule someones opinion if you aren't going to take the time to type out your own opinion.

[Chimera[NL]]

My opinion is that people should mind their own business. If people want to be gay let them be gay. If people of the same sex want to marry let them marry. Who are you to decide for them if it's a morally "good" thing to do/be?

[karny]

Originally posted by Freakonaleash89
Why even take the time to ridicule someones opinion if you aren't going to take the time to type out your own opinion.

LOL there are opinions all over this thread, go take a look :)

[Smapdey]

Freak, what's your reason for not liking gay people?

[Roboman]

Originally posted by Chimera[NL]
Who are you to decide for them if it's a morally "good" thing to do/be?

Everyone holds their own moral standards, whether dictated by society, one's parents, friends, or just personal resolution. Then they think they can obtrude those morals onto others. This really has no effect, as no gay person is going to give a shit. But I guess those trying to enforce their own moral codes with homosexuals get to feel good about it...

[MrBored]

Originally posted by Chimera[NL]
My opinion is that people should mind their own business. If people want to be gay let them be gay. If people of the same sex want to marry let them marry. Who are you to decide for them if it's a morally "good" thing to do/be?

The only problem here is that the word marry is religious ( its a completely religious ceremony ) and it clearly states in the bible that punching donuts is not the thing to do. Let them be legally a couple, sure ( tax benefits, medical benefits etc, which is probably at the roots of what they are complaining about in the first place) , but you can't say to religious people they must change their definition of marriage because thats just as much an infringement of their rights as it is to the gay people to not allow them to marry. I'm not religious by any stretch of the imagination, but if you want one group to be happy ( the fags ) and the whole system to be liberal and fair, then you have to realise that you can't disadvantage another group ( the happy clappers ).

I say let them be gay and a couple, and maybe, just maybe its genetic. Then by not forcing them into hetero relationships, through pressures in society, the gene will die off.

[Smapdey]

Originally posted by MrBored
The only problem here is that the word marry is religious ( its a completely religious ceremony ) and it clearly states in the bible that punching donuts is not the thing to do. Let them be legally a couple, sure ( tax benefits, medical benefits etc, which is probably at the roots of what they are complaining about in the first place) , but you can't say to religious people they must change their definition of marriage because thats just as much an infringement of their rights as it is to the gay people to not allow them to marry. I'm not religious by any stretch of the imagination, but if you want one group to be happy ( the fags ) and the whole system to be liberal and fair, then you have to realise that you can't disadvantage another group ( the happy clappers ).

I say let them be gay and a couple, and maybe, just maybe its genetic. Then by not forcing them into hetero relationships, through pressures in society, the gene will die off.

I'd listen to him. He's South African. He knows how this shit works.

[Freakonaleash89]

Originally posted by Smapdey
Freak, what's your reason for not liking gay people?

I'm a homophobe, I guess. They don't bother me near as much as they used to though.

Some gay people can actually be pretty cool, but most of them are pretty annoying and that is why I don't like the group as a whole.

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

This fucking thread still alive.. damn!

[karny]

Originally posted by WhoGivesARatsAss
This fucking thread still alive.. damn!

You same question... errr statment!!

[Smapdey]

Originally posted by Freakonaleash89
I'm a homophobe, I guess. They don't bother me near as much as they used to though.

Some gay people can actually be pretty cool, but most of them are pretty annoying and that is why I don't like the group as a whole.

Look, you can't hate gay people because it's a natural thing. Hate an unnatural group, like Jews.

[Freakonaleash89]

Originally posted by Smapdey
Look, you can't hate gay people because it's a natural thing. Hate an unnatural group, like Jews.

Just for a reminder, when is the last time I said I hate gays?

[Smapdey]

Top of this page.

[Freakonaleash89]

Originally posted by Smapdey
Top of this page.

Not liking them in general and hating them is alot of difference. You, of all people, should know the difference since you are a pretty good writer.

[Roboman]

Originally posted by Freakonaleash89
Not liking them in general and hating them is alot of difference. You, of all people, should know the difference since you are a pretty good writer.

HAHA you make me laugh...oh wait, you were being serious about the writing part?

[Freakonaleash89]

Originally posted by Roboman
HAHA you make me laugh...oh wait, you were being serious about the writing part?

No, I was saying it just for the hell of it.

[Roboman]

Originally posted by Freakonaleash89
No, I was saying it just for the hell of it.

I'm sorry Freak, the next time I make a joke, I won't have it involve you, just so you don't get more confused.

[Smapdey]

Either he insulted me, or he insulted freak, or he insulted both of us. Either way, yeah, you're probably right.

[caregirl]

I really could care less about gay ppl. Some of them are very annoying though, and some of them are just regular ppl. Just like everybody else.

Only thing I care about is the fact that they claimed the fucking rainbow. Who told them they could do that? I mean that's like the black ppl claiming snow for themselves. Everytime there is a snowflake it signifies Black rights. And if you have a snowflake on your shirt it means you love black ppl. WTF is that about ?

The Fucking rainbow is for everybody.

[Smapdey]

The republicans claimed the fucking elephant! Now everytime I draw an elephant I have to be a retard?

The democrats claimed the ass, now everytime I draw an ass I have to be a retard?

The KKK claimed the burning cross! Now what the fuck am I going to put in my yard on easter?!

The Nazi's claimed the Swastika! Now everytime I draw a native american cave painting, something I'm totally allowed to do because I'm native, I get called a Nazi?!

Green Peace took the fucking tree! Now every time I draw a tree, I love nature?

All of these symbols are for fucking everybody!

[Bhazard]

You could always draw a penis.

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by Bhazard
You could always draw a penis.

O man you're asking for it.

[TopSecretBoy]

Originally posted by Smapdey


The Nazi's claimed the Swastika! Now everytime I draw a native american cave painting, something I'm totally allowed to do because I'm native, I get called a Nazi?!

You're drawing it backwards. Or at least, the people looking at it are fucking retarded.

[Smapdey]

No, the Native American symbol goes both ways.

[TopSecretBoy]

Originally posted by Smapdey
No, the Native American symbol goes both ways.

So do I, but that didn't seem to matter to you last night.

[farsimon]

I as a human being contest them and everything they stand for....

And all you fuckers saying "who cares", "let them do what they want", "they're not bothering me" need to grow up.

What's the use of living if you got no decent opinion....

Either say FUCK IT I'M GAY or FUCK YOU FOR BEING GAY

and if you say option one then I say to you

FUCK YOU FOR BEING GAY

the faggots are rotting up society and should all be torched in the streets or sent naked to antarctica...


btw - if a man has a dick fetish he is not necessarily gay - you're gay when you fuck with the conservation of the species.

I hope that anyone that reads this and feels even remotely offended either catch a wake up and stop being so FUCKING GAY, or just DIE....

[Downfall]

someone never got huged as a child

[farsimon]

Actually - I'm a pretty laid back optimist with a permanent smile on my face....

I just think people should own up instead of just standing on the sidelines ...

[xenophage]

Originally posted by Downfall
someone never got huged as a child

somone fell on their head as a baby?

[Downfall]

well we havent started this gay flame everyone for not thinking like you do thread in a while. wonder how this one will go. althought you will most likely already know most everyones opinion abotu it by readingthe past 8 pages or any of theother many threads about it.


so your saying that suporting gay rights is standing on the sidelines? and if you suport them that you are gay as well?

oh and go introduce yourself if ya wana hang around :)
http://www.atrip.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=25

Originally posted by xenophage
somone fell on their head as a baby?


i was young, my head was soft...i bounced back :)

[farsimon]

that's the gust of it

unless you've got a pretty decent reason for not hating anything that fucks up the way nature works....

EDIT:
btw. "Supporting gay rights" - WTF is up with that - do you support criminal rights?

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by farsimon
that's the gust of it

unless you've got a pretty decent reason for not hating anything that fucks up the way nature works....

EDIT:
btw. "Supporting gay rights" - WTF is up with that - do you support criminal rights?

You don't know shit about how nature works dumbass. So don't even try to use that argument. Just because you're one of those people who feel they HAVE to interfere with someone's life doesn't mean they (gay people) shouldn't be allowed to feel what they feel. Let me guess, you think being gay is a choice someone makes, right? People like you make me sick and judging by your posts both here and on the mainpage I think I can safely say that your intelligence is non-existant meaning you are of absolutely no use to this society. Which in turn means I'd rather have you "torched in the streets" as you so nicely put it.

Supporting gay rights wouldn't been an issue if fuckheads like you wouldn't have made such a big deal about being gay. They are people just like us, but they can't do some of the things we do. Which means they have less rights than us. So you could say that "supporting gay rights" can be translated to "Rights for EVERYONE, not just the heterosexuals". And don't even begin to compare sexual preference to crime, it would only make you look even more stupid.

[wangstramedeous]

Its interesting that you bring up the topic of nature. I don't hate gays nor do I see the reason why some people hate them so vehemently. Although gay people do introduce quite an interesting situation.

As of late, meaning the last 30-40 years, 'gayness' has either become more publicly known or at least because of how liberal western society has become, people are willing to explore different types of sexuality. For me this doesn't pose a problem but I do wonder how this will eventually affect society as a whole. Gay people are demanding marriage rights and also demanding to be able to adopt kids. Now don't get me wrong, gay people adopting kids doesn't mean that they will do a bad job but I believe children in a general case need both a dose from the paternal and martenal side. Not only that but image a bady growing up always with two dads or two moms and as he grows up he/she realizes that two daddies and two mommies can't make children and that he/she infact has another parent else where. I can't imagine what kind of problems with identity will arise.

Finally it is true that we are the only species that engages in homosexuality so its pretty reasonable to say that its not natural in some way.

And finally in the long run, if gay people can marry and adopt children, what about transexuals, etc. Imagine growing up with someone who is neither really mom or dad? Or was mom and now is dad? Or vice versa.

Just some thoughts, no assertions here.

[Chimera[NL]]

Does it matter if I have 2 daddies or 2 mommies? No, not as long as they both love me. Why would a child have identity problems later on? The gay parents will tell them what the situation is. They will tell them that he/she was adopted and that his/hers real parents are either dead or live in some 3d world country. Nothing different than when a heterosexual couple adopts a child.

Also why must everyone always say "If nature doesn't have it, it's not natural."

t's true that we don't see homosexuality in nature that often, but since when does something's "naturalness," for lack of a better term, determine its morality? The same people who preach homosexuality's immorality, the Biblical fundamentalists, are the same people that tell teenagers not to have sex before marriage. Do we see animals undergoing marriage rituals? No, therefore marriage rituals are unnatural and wrong. The Biblical fundamentalist may retort by saying that man is "above the animals," so we have to make up such rituals. Does this seem like a double-standard to anyone else?

[xenophage]

Dude don't waste your breath cos there are some ppl who just won't see it that way.

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by xenophage
Dude don't waste your breath cos there are some ppl who just won't see it that way.

Yeah I know but I just can't stand people like farsimon. Why can't the let these people be?


[half serious] Man If I ever become a dictator/worldleader (give me a couple of years) I'll eradicate the stupid first. [/half serious]

[xenophage]

Originally posted by Chimera[NL]
Yeah I know but I just can't stand people like farsimon. Why can't the let these people be?

People can never "Live and let live". They have to poke their fucking noses in everything. It's still not that bad in Western countries but over here ppl wanna know everything... even if it doesn't invlove them. Simple ex: if a girl isn't married by 30, chances are she never will cos ppl think there's something wrong with her.

[karny]

Originally posted by Chimera[NL]
[half serious] Man If I ever become a dictator/worldleader (give me a couple of years) I'll eradicate the stupid first. [/half serious]

You genocidal maniac!

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by karny
You genocidal maniac!

Watch it buddy, New Zealand is allready on my shitlist. Don't make it worse!

[Downfall]

i vote screw em



then give me their women

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by Downfall
i vote screw em



then give me their women

The bearded ones or the ones with a penis?

[Downfall]

give me the bearded ones..at least they can be shaved

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by Downfall
give me the bearded ones..at least they can be shaved

Nothing beats the feeling of a sturdy New Zealand penis up the pooper!

[farsimon]

Chimera[NL] - FUCK YOU FOR BEING GAY!

I don't interfere with faggot's lives - my hatred is my personal choice, just like your love for them is your choice... and just like it is choice for them to be so fuct...

And btw - go get your facts straight before talking about being stupid... by saying that you make yourself look like an wiener...


edit:
you say
"It's true that we don't see homosexuality in nature that often"

how can you possibly say that - there are NO, repeat NO instances of homosexuality in nature.

in any species - procreation and the fight for a decent mate of the OPPOSING sex is a fight that any creature on earth will DIE for.
There are some species that are asexual and procreate by themselves - but this is the ONLY exception of the rule and cannot possibly be confused with gayness.

Like I said - you look like a wiener...

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by farsimon
Chimera[NL] - FUCK YOU FOR BEING GAY!

I don't interfere with faggot's lives - my hatred is my personal choice, just like your love for them is your choice... and just like it is choice for them to be so fuct...

And btw - go get your facts straight before talking about being stupid... by saying that you make yourself look like an wiener...


edit:
you say
"It's true that we don't see homosexuality in nature that often"

how can you possibly say that - there are NO, repeat NO instances of homosexuality in nature.

in any species - procreation and the fight for a decent mate of the OPPOSING sex is a fight that any creature on earth will DIE for.
There are some species that are asexual and procreate by themselves - but this is the ONLY exception of the rule and cannot possibly be confused with gayness.

Like I said - you look like a wiener...

Good job dumbass, you obviously know absolutely nothing about nature. There have been sightings of dogs doing eachother and cats doing that. Also, there has been a situation where 2 male flamingos stole an egg from a female flamingo and hatched it and raised it themselves. You can scream faggot and wiener (funny choice of words for a homophobe) all you want, but you're still the fucking retard with an IQ of a vegetable. You demonstrated that pretty nicely. Thank you.

Anyway, I suggest you quit this conversation. It will only make you look even more pathetic and your "facts" are laughable.

[Chimera[NL]]

Here, fucktard!

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1589/is_n735/ai_20164884

[farsimon]

HAHAHAHA thanks for making me laugh again...

It is in fact your knowledge of nature that is a bit distorted... as I said before there is no such thing as GAYness in nature... the odd occurance that you are talking about has got nothing to do with nature all....

You do get males "humping" males - and even Females dooing the same - but NEVER in nature - it does happen however with domesticated animals when they do not have a female around when pumped with testosterone or just frustrated....

Did you know they will hump ANYTHING when in that condition - even shoes, trees, human legs.... it just doesn't matter ...

Please get your facts straight....

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by farsimon
HAHAHAHA thanks for making me laugh again...

It is in fact your knowledge of nature that is a bit distorted... as I said before there is no such thing as GAYness in nature... the odd occurance that you are talking about has got nothing to do with nature all....

You do get males "humping" males - and even Females dooing the same - but NEVER in nature - it does happen however with domesticated animals when they do not have a female around when pumped with testosterone or just frustrated....

Did you know they will hump ANYTHING when in that condition - even shoes, trees, human legs.... it just doesn't matter ...

Please get your facts straight....

Originally posted by Chimera[NL]
Here, fucktard!

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1589/is_n735/ai_20164884

[farsimon]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH AGAIN!

Wanting copious amounts of sex with whatever sexual partner ain't got nothing to do with being GAY.....

these monkeys in your article does it because of frustration....

but yeah I'm sure you've even bothered to read all of it....

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by farsimon
HAHAHAHAHAHAH AGAIN!

Wanting copious amounts of sex with whatever sexual partner ain't got nothing to do with being GAY.....

these monkeys in your article does it because of frustration....

but yeah I'm sure you've even bothered to read all of it....

Goddamn, you really are stupid aren't you? These monkey do it with male and female. Not just because of frustration. It has multiple functions. And I'm sure you even read it cause you posted 1 minute after I posted that article.


I quote: " Researchers have long known that same-sex erotic contact is common among apes"


Bye bye farsimon.

[farsimon]

your ignorance is amazing.... but then again why would that surprise me...

EDIT:
I bet you dont even know what being GAY means.... it's not just fucking the same sex, you know...

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by farsimon
your ignorance is amazing.... but then again why would that surprise me...

EDIT:
I bet you dont even know what being GAY means.... it's not just fucking the same sex, you know...

My ignorance amazing? The article clearly states that there IS homosexual contact between these apes and other species as well, and you're still here with you homphobic argument of "It isn't natural."

And being gay is loving a person of the same sex, having sexual intercourse with them, and caring for that person. Well the bonobos alone allready have 2 out of those 3 points.

Like I said before, sad little boy, bye bye!

[farsimon]

hehe - you miss the picture....

there is a difference with being gay and just being BISEXUAL....

being gay also means not having sex with someone of the opposite sex - someone must have forgotten to tell the monkeys about that...

anyways - there is a difference between caring withing a SOCIETY and caring as a couple.... it is not NEARLY the same thing - in fact there should have been 2 different words for it...

I'm still confused though as to why you're taking my opinion so personal .... you must be GAY yourself (and then I feel sorry for you) or so saturated by the GAYness where you come from that you actually believe it is natural (and then I feel sorry for you)...

all in all, since you are so confused that you don't even know what you're talking about I'll take back my words "FUCK YOU FOR BEING GAY" and stick to feeling sorry for you...

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by farsimon
hehe - you miss the picture....

there is a difference with being gay and just being BISEXUAL....

being gay also means not having sex with someone of the opposite sex - someone must have forgotten to tell the monkeys about that...

anyways - there is a difference between caring withing a SOCIETY and caring as a couple.... it is not NEARLY the same thing - in fact there should have been 2 different words for it...

I'm still confused though as to why you're taking my opinion so personal .... you must be GAY yourself (and then I feel sorry for you) or so saturated by the GAYness where you come from that you actually believe it is natural (and then I feel sorry for you)...

all in all, since you are so confused that you don't even know what you're talking about I'll take back my words "FUCK YOU FOR BEING GAY" and stick to feeling sorry for you...

That's very nice of you but I think our little conversation has clearly pointed out that you are the one people should feel sorry for. Just because I defend these people against fucktards like you you assume I'm either gay or "saturated with gaynesss that I think it's natural"? I think that sentence alone makes you look retarded.

Also, I just pointed out that there is nothing unnatural about being gay. Saying that being gay and being bisexual is different is just silly. These animals would be gay if there weren't females around. It's their mating instinct that drives them to the women, but they enjoy having sex with males aswell. Gay men would be exactly the same if it weren't for the fact that humans don't respond so heavily to instinct anymore.

[NoRm]

I know I havne't shown myself around here, but I;ve been following the various "Issue" discussions on this forum and I must admit, damn Chimaira, what's with all this anti-USA propaganda????!!! Everything you've been posting is negative towards my country! Just like you're backward country is all that great! If there is any country that has to be shown a mirror its Holland! Killing your own babies, and respectable elderly, having a crumbling economy and some midget for a president. I will not stay on this forum for long, but these discussions are just to pro-european! Whiny bastards!
If you wish to debate on various issues just bring it on with some good argument on e.g. homosexuality, because some '97 article that has been invalidated numerous times won't prove anything. To be gay is a state of mind that is just a test from god to prove loyalty.

[farsimon]

Humans DO respond to instinct just as much as animals the only difference is that we have laws etc. that bounds us to the norm, and say what you wan't but if there were no females around in those communities they would have been extinct by now....

Unless humanity starts investigating its FLAWS and fixing it we will also become extinct - what do you think will happen if everyone on earth suddenly becomes "GAY".... in ONE generation all traces of mankind will be wiped out...

GAYness is a FLAW - it is not natural - instead of looking up ill-researched articles I have actually studied these topics in depth; from genetics to zoology to psychology and no matter how much of these little articles you throw at me - you're still goint to look like a fool to me...


btw do you believe in ALIENS and UFO's too - there are a lot of articles on them too....


instead of replying AGAIN without anything decent to say, rather go do some more research and find out what the world is really about...

[farsimon]

Originally posted by NoRm
I know I havne't shown myself around here, but I;ve been following the various "Issue" discussions on this forum and I must admit, damn Chimaira, what's with all this anti-USA propaganda????!!! Everything you've been posting is negative towards my country! Just like you're backward country is all that great! If there is any country that has to be shown a mirror its Holland! Killing your own babies, and respectable elderly, having a crumbling economy and some midget for a president. I will not stay on this forum for long, but these discussions are just to pro-european! Whiny bastards!
If you wish to debate on various issues just bring it on with some good argument on e.g. homosexuality, because some '97 article that has been invalidated numerous times won't prove anything. To be gay is a state of mind that is just a test from god to prove loyalty.

don't bother NoRm - this guy is an id10t... he's proved it many times...

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by NoRm
I know I havne't shown myself around here, but I;ve been following the various "Issue" discussions on this forum and I must admit, damn Chimaira, what's with all this anti-USA propaganda????!!! Everything you've been posting is negative towards my country! Just like you're backward country is all that great! If there is any country that has to be shown a mirror its Holland! Killing your own babies, and respectable elderly, having a crumbling economy and some midget for a president. I will not stay on this forum for long, but these discussions are just to pro-european! Whiny bastards!
If you wish to debate on various issues just bring it on with some good argument on e.g. homosexuality, because some '97 article that has been invalidated numerous times won't prove anything. To be gay is a state of mind that is just a test from god to prove loyalty.

HAHAHAH! YES! We have a true hick here. Thanks for being such a stereotype american.

Anyway, your points:

1. This (anti)gay thread has nothing to do with America. That idiot of an farsimon lives in South Africa.

2. The Netherlands a backward country? Are you fucking kidding me? We are amongst the top when it comes to health care, average education, low number of un-employed .Get your facts straight little man, cause you are seriously talking out of your ass.

3. Killing its own babies and elders must mean abortion and euthanasia and yes we do have that here. Too bad your mother didn't do that to you back then, it would've made the world a better place I'm sure. About euthanasia it's easy, if people REQUEST to die peacefully instead of being eaten alive by cancer I support that 100%. I see you'd rather have them suffer?

4.A crumbling economy? WTF, you live in a country which has around 500 billion in depths, is on the edge of losing it's economic superpower status to China and your national currency is currently being dumped by almost every country since it's plummeting.

5.midget for president? We don't have a president you moron. You are talking about our prime minister

Anyway, I thinked I owned your bible bumpin ass enough now. Thnx for the laughs farmer Joe.

[NoRm]

Originally posted by farsimon
don't bother NoRm - this guy is an id10t... he's proved it many times...

this is no bother at all, i haven't been here that long, so i have energy enough. But I just can't stand people with them fancy opinions and no backup! I just happen to know my facts on europe and especially Belgium and Holland, so this may make the discussion more equal

[StormyPeak]

Documentation of homosexuality in animals is common knowledge in the scientific communities. There are case studies of sea gulls that take on same sex partners and year after year with each breeding season continue to do the same, ignoring the other sex completely.

There are as mentioned, primates that have homosexual relationships and same sex relationships are common - a thread that that runs through most animal species.

As far as it being 'against nature' I can not imagine how something invented by nature could be 'against it'. :confused:
It's only un-natural to some people because the Culture you were raised in says so. If any of us had been born in Spartica in the days of Ancient Rome....homosexuality would have been a normal and accepted part of our lives...as their culture saw no wrong in that side of human nature. So it's the culture you live in and not 'nature' that is trying to say it's 'un-natural' but saying it doesn't make it so.

As far as humans being wiped out do to a genetic flaw that could turn everyone gay....lol... I doubt it. The balance will always be on side of hetro's....as they are the ones doing the breeding and baby producing.

Stormy

[NoRm]

Originally posted by Chimera[NL]
HAHAHAH! YES! We have a true hick here. Thanks for being such a stereotype american.

Anyway, your points:

1. This (anti)gay thread has nothing to do with America. That idiot of an farsimon lives in South Africa.

2. The Netherlands a backward country? Are you fucking kidding me? We are amongst the top when it comes to health care, average education, low number of un-employed .Get your facts straight little man, cause you are seriously talking out of your ass.

3. Killing its own babies and elders must mean abortion and euthanasia and yes we do have that here. Too bad your mother didn't do that to you back then, it would've made the world a better place I'm sure. About euthanasia it's easy, if people REQUEST to die peacefully instead of being eaten alive by cancer I support that 100%. I see you'd rather have them suffer?

4.A crumbling economy? WTF, you live in a country which has around 500 billion in depths, is on the edge of losing it's economic superpower status to China and your national currency is currently being dumped by almost every country since it's plummeting.

5.midget for president? We don't have a president you moron. You are talking about our prime minister

Anyway, I thinked I owned your bible bumpin ass enough now. Thnx for the laughs farmer Joe.

You think you're pretty smart aren't you?? Let me Reply to some of your statements. Thanks for describing me as you're typical american, cause GO USA!! I was talking about a crumbling economy, I have to admit that you were once a fine economy, but your healthcare system is failing (look at the costs, waiting periods). Your economic growth percentage has been crap the last couple of years, this year I thought one of the lowest in Europe. Debt doesn't tell much. Your innovative capability is also crap, and where then will you make money when all your industry is moved to China??
Then you can't play god by killing down-syndrome babies, just because they have the syndrome of down! And them babys can't judge for themselves. If you think euthanasia is all that correct read up on "Doctor Death" in the UK! And you think China will change that fast?? Have you seen the differences in that country, 3/4 lives in the utmost poverty! The state has control over everthing, it has the right to disown everything if it wishes to and private property is no given right! So China will have to do alot more than this, and remember your economy grows much faster if you have no previous economy!
And yes you;ve got me there, you Dutchmen have a queen, right??, so no president, but hey that does not disprove my point.
And guy you seriously have some issues with your fancy language! :D

[Yian]

Hey, hey, everyone calms down! Don't flame each other or we will lose the focus of the thread. A lot of things that got nothing to do with homosexuality has gotten in, such as GO USA and midget president... what's up with that!?

Here is my view, hope you guys don't find it nonsense. farsimon, you mentioned how being homosexual isn't natural. But you cannot use that as a reason against homosexuality. If being "unatural" is wrong, we will still be living in the cave. No animal in nature uses fire, electricity, or cut down more trees for farms than their future generation could afford to lose. Human is not nautral.

And I believe everyone's opinion should be respected. You expressed your hatred toward gay people and thought that is only a personal matter. But I think that trend of thinking has gotten hold of your logic and reactions to things. You will not stop flaming Chimera (oh btw Chimera, sorry, but you too) after your idea didn't get through. Both parties were throwing words at each other and nothing contructive was done in that regard. Your problem doesn't seem to be hating gay, but hating everything that is different than you.

As you have mentioned, human has laws and that has made our race different than raw animals governed by instinct, but your hatred toward gay people tells me that you refuse to accept differences in other people, and that means you haven't learned a thing from human history. Look how personal hate could eventually burn into a holocaust. If you can take logical steps in your thinking, put your instict to hate aside, you are an evolved human being. But if you hate something simply it doesn't "feel" right, who are you to talk about human's laws and nature?

And if there is a single Christian out there want to bach on the concept of homosexuality, please go ahead. Show me how that Christ-life in you has taken its full effect and lead your heart to hatred toward indifference.

[NoRm]

Thank you for this rather ethical and freundian reply. Comments on my behalf: I know this topic isn't really on-topic but because this is one of the more active topics I thoughed it would be a nice sidetopic, topictopictopic. For me, a junior member or what ever my label is..??, I figured it was to soon to begin with opening my own topics out of the blue. And hey let's al chill out, have a nice discussion and my opinion on homosexuality is already expressed.

[Chimera[NL]]

Well I made my point aswell so i'll back down to. I still had some arguments about NL being a shitty country but ok, I'll pipe down too.

[NoRm]

Ah this is getting boring like this, peoples arguments are being suppressed here. Don;t think that is very liberal. Hey what if you slip them secretly and not in the tempered fashion like your first reply

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by NoRm
Ah this is getting boring like this, peoples arguments are being suppressed here. Don;t think that is very liberal. Hey what if you slip them secretly and not in the tempered fashion like your first reply

Dude, seriously. If you start this conversation by saying that The Netherlands is a backward country with a crumbling economy and a lousy healthcare system, I don't think I should be talking to you. Next you know you'd call me a heretic for saying the earth is round. Please get your facts straight before saying stuff like that. That's all I'm gonna say.

[NoRm]

hey mister, I never called Holland backward, I just pointed out that it's not all that! And actually I started my side of the conversation with "I know", and never calling Holland stupid or whatever. And you defitively should not be talking to me, for this is an open forum, right?? :S But if thats all you're able to say, then its a pitty. And hey my facts are relatively right, don't know how your papers report negative info. So prove me wrong, and by the way the earth isn't totally round, but you would know that

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by NoRm
hey mister, I never called Holland backward, I just pointed out that it's not all that! And actually I started my side of the conversation with "I know", and never calling Holland stupid or whatever. And you defitively should not be talking to me, for this is an open forum, right?? :S But if thats all you're able to say, then its a pitty. And hey my facts are relatively right, don't know how your papers report negative info. So prove me wrong, and by the way the earth isn't totally round, but you would know that

The earth is shaped like an egg most of the times and the shape always fluctuates.

Ontopic: You live in America, the country in which the newsstations give nothing but good news from Iraq and showing nothing but American tanks blowing up Iraqees and you want to tell me something about subjective news reporting? Your facts are not rights since we're absolutely not on the bottom of the economic growth ladder. We may not be on the top as we've been for years but saying that we're either near the bottom or AT the bottom is simply lying. And why should I provide you the evidence? You made a statement, you give me a report on how our economic growth is so lousy. And if you're planning on bringing some cnn report, please don't even bother. You might aswell use some gossipy magazine as your source then.

Also, don't lie about what you said. Look down some posts and you'll see that you said :"Just like you're backward country is all that great! "

[NoRm]

A very weird shapen egg then??, i'd rather label it a skippy ball with some fat ass on it. And i think you confuse some US newsstations, you're probably talkin bout Fox, and yes that doesn't give very objective news, but there are dozens more good stations, and in fact cnn is one of them. And you're growth rates have been near the bottom, so don't play tricks with me. And please do not present US as this dumb shithole, because the US is still the country with the most patents and most private funds for research, and still leader in various markets, and has been for years. But this is no discussion, you clearly don;t have your facts straight, as you want to label it, and your only debating on how I get my info and I see no invalidation of my facts, so this is over..
Let's look if there is some other nice topic around heren with some real debates.

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by NoRm
A very weird shapen egg then??, i'd rather label it a skippy ball with some fat ass on it. And i think you confuse some US newsstations, you're probably talkin bout Fox, and yes that doesn't give very objective news, but there are dozens more good stations, and in fact cnn is one of them. And you're growth rates have been near the bottom, so don't play tricks with me. And please do not present US as this dumb shithole, because the US is still the country with the most patents and most private funds for research, and still leader in various markets, and has been for years. But this is no discussion, you clearly don;t have your facts straight, as you want to label it, and your only debating on how I get my info and I see no invalidation of my facts, so this is over..
Let's look if there is some other nice topic around heren with some real debates.

This is funny. I live here, I read the paper every day and some American thinks he knows better? All you can say is how our economic growth sucks and how I am wrong with my information. That's no real debate, you wouldn't even know how to hold proper debate. You've probably heard some economic science teacher say something about how The Netherlands had a dissapointing growth the last couple of years and now you think you know something? Don't make me laugh. Also, it would be a goddamn shame if America didn't have the largest amounts of patents. It's by far the largest western country there is. Please note that having the largest amount of patents don't mean shit since in America you can get a patent for inventing a new way to wipe your ass. Also when talking about innovations, you are showing some supidity of the highest class when saying The Netherlands is behind on all that because since you love your US of A so much why don't you ask who built all those radar technology in your modern navy ships? NL has been a leader in that technology for many years. And that is just one of many. Some other examples. What company dug up the Koersk? What company is going to be helping out the Asian people by getting their washed away land back? What college just did major research on the tsunami that washed away Asia? What college developed the outer hull of your newest airplanes? Who invented a new way of cleaning sewage water through ultraviolet light?

Let me give you a hint, they all come from the same small country that you don't know SHIT about. So don't come to me with "let's see if there's a real debate somewhere" cause you ain't got shit on me boy. Now get back to kissing Bush's ass while he drags your beloved country into a second Vietnam!

[NoRm]

Frisky are we?? Damn why the agitation? Yeah you can come up with some dutch inventions but this goes nowhere. And talking about who knows what about US patents, you probably don;t even know the difference between US and European Patents, but hey who am I, probably some 12 year old whiny redneck.
And I just have one question for you... What is the chance of throwing a 4 with one dice??

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by NoRm
Frisky are we?? Damn why the agitation? Yeah you can come up with some dutch inventions but this goes nowhere. And talking about who knows what about US patents, you probably don;t even know the difference between US and European Patents, but hey who am I, probably some 12 year old whiny redneck.
And I just have one question for you... What is the chance of throwing a 4 with one dice??

The same chance as with the other numbers. And why would your argument of me not knowing anything be any different than me saying the same about you. Let's just leave it at that I know more about my country and you know more about yours.

[MrBored]

What does this have to do with donut punching, fudge packing, turd burgling, shit packing, ass farming, pillow biting and anal fisting?

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by MrBored
What does this have to do with donut punching, fudge packing, turd burgling, shit packing, ass farming, pillow biting and anal fisting?

I thought I told you to keep that mouth gag in! Do you want me to use the whip again?

[NoRm]

Originally posted by MrBored
What does this have to do with donut punching, fudge packing, turd burgling, shit packing, ass farming, pillow biting and anal fisting?

The same as Krackertrekken with a sundae icecream...., most likely spoiling some inside humour

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by NoRm
The same as Krackertrekken with a sundae icecream...., most likely spoiling some inside humour

I didn't know the American Navy knew that thing. Isn't it called crackertrekken? And yes, I (unfortunately) know what it is.

[NoRm]

Is that something Dutch? I should have known (Nonono just kiddin' before I unleash some new rampage). And I don't think any dictionary will prove both of us right or wrong

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by NoRm
Is that something Dutch? I should have known (Nonono just kiddin' before I unleash some new rampage). And I don't think any dictionary will prove both of us right or wrong

Yeah it's originally a Dutch Navy thing.

[NoRm]

Dutch is kind of weird language but I like it. I met one dutchmen in Las vegas ones for a McDonalds convention about 3 years ago. I had the same discussion with him as I had with you, are all Dutchmen so into politics and economics?

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by NoRm
Dutch is kind of weird language but I like it. I met one dutchmen in Las vegas ones for a McDonalds convention about 3 years ago. I had the same discussion with him as I had with you, are all Dutchmen so into politics and economics?

Depends on the education. Lower educated don't give a crap, the higher ones do, since we don't want our country going to hell, so to speak.

Was this Dutch guys' name Stefan by any chance? Of so, than you met a friend of mine.

[Downfall]

Originally posted by Chimera[NL]
Depends on the education. Lower educated don't give a crap, the higher ones do, since we don't want our country going to hell, so to speak.


same goes for damn near any country/state :)

aside from places like alaska..they just want to club seals

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by Downfall
aside from places like alaska..they just want to club seals

Don't we all?

[NoRm]

Mm I forgot his name, he's kind of a tall blonde guy, he was around 18 years old then.... Mm Stefan, yes thatcould have been his name

Seal, isn't he gonna marry Heidi Klum, maybe she could hit him?

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by NoRm
Mm I forgot his name, he's kind of a tall blonde guy, he was around 18 years old then.... Mm Stefan, yes thatcould have been his name

Seal, isn't he gonna marry Heidi Klum, maybe she could hit him?

HAHAHA! Wow that's funny I think you did meet him. Yeah Stefan knows his shit pretty darn well. He even mastered in Economics Corporate Science or whatever you call it in English.

O I just asked him and yeah it was him. Wow, what are the odds?

Was it at a Greenday concert by any chance?

[NoRm]

Mmm greenday, yeah yeah that's it! Hahaha, damn this is kind of weird... Green day and Blink 182! Damn the concert sucked, but i hooked up with my current girl there, so it was a memorable evening, I think that's why I still remember him

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by NoRm
Mmm greenday, yeah yeah that's it! Hahaha, damn this is kind of weird... Green day and Blink 182! Damn the concert sucked, but i hooked up with my current girl there, so it was a memorable evening, I think that's why I still remember him

Hahah, wow this is crazy shit! I'm right now talking to him on msn and we're both like WTF, not even the lottery gives you odd this small.

Anyway, PM me your email. I'll give it to him. I don't think your convo was over yet ;)

[NoRm]

I don't want to be like rude or anything but i'm not so keen on distributing my adress to someone I barely know. I do trust you that you knwo this guy so say Hy! to him for me, but that's it. I know it's really weird, I think my girl will be shocked too! I have to go to work right now, so greetings! to both of you

[Chimera[NL]]

Originally posted by NoRm
I don't want to be like rude or anything but i'm not so keen on distributing my adress to someone I barely know. I do trust you that you knwo this guy so say Hy! to him for me, but that's it. I know it's really weird, I think my girl will be shocked too! I have to go to work right now, so greetings! to both of you

Ok dude I understand. Cya later.

[farsimon]

Aaaah yes... this forums.... go away for a couple of hours and all just turns out in one big gay love fest....

First of all Fucktards - Chimera[nl] in particular....
THIS IS THE ISSUE FORUM
- It is not the Improve your Education Forum - which you desperately need
- it is not the convert to another way of thinking forum - which would not be possible for you as you just don't think

Second - with my forst statement in mind:
1. GAYS ARE FUCT - THEY SHOULD BE BURNED IN THE STREETS!
2. DUTCHIES ARE GAY - hence the support - btw I speak afrikaans, a language created to improve your dumbass Dutch - which isn't that original either...
3. The