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cr3am
March 26th, 2003, 07:00 PM
"If you don't like this country, get the fuck out."

Go to iraq, and live under Saddam's reign. Yeah, you'd love to do that wouldn't you?

Go tell the iraqis that we're not gonna do anything about Saddam, cuz it's their problem.

But if you hate this country so much, why the hell are you still here?

Hobbes874
March 26th, 2003, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by cr3am
"If you don't like this country, get the fuck out."

Go to iraq, and live under Saddam's reign. Yeah, you'd love to do that wouldn't you?

Go tell the iraqis that we're not gonna do anything about Saddam, cuz it's their problem.

But if you hate this country so much, why the hell are you still here?
cuz their STUPID!!!! god live under in communist you bastards and see how you like it there!!

ReDeeMeR
March 27th, 2003, 12:07 PM
Yes actualy all pacifists are pussies, plus they act like they know shit and it's other way around, we have some very smart(proven publicaly) people like journalists and politics talkin here that the war was indeed inevitable and that USA is doing world a favour even if they are going after some oil. But still there's some shitheads protesting an shit.

They also explained why Chitcrac... Chirac doesnt want this war, it's because he has multiple companies with huge interest in Iraq and so does the French as a nation and that Chitcrac has a very shady past and he's been elected only because the Lepen was Ultra nacionalist = Nazie...

Plus that mother fuckin muslim soldier that threw grenade at his own teammates should be tortured to death.

ReDeeMeR
March 27th, 2003, 12:43 PM
Plus most of the protests end up in conflict with police forces, broken shit in the streets and mashed windows etc, is that how they imagine "the peace" ???

Hobbes874
March 27th, 2003, 12:44 PM
yeah like the saying "fighting for peace" huh? wtf!

OlympusXP
March 27th, 2003, 01:02 PM
Well, people are allowed to say what they want to say, this is a free country. ;)

But, you're right, if some people take all this stuff for granted and then just want to whine and complain about the government and almost everything else there is to life then they should just leave.

Trust me, even living in France or Germany isn't close to the luxury and flow of living in the U.S. (i lived in France for 3 years doing an exchange and in Germany for a year going to a trade school). In Germany you can't even take more than a 5 minute shower because of water restrictions and in France you're guilty until proven innocent (well, they don't care if you drink over there and you're 12 for all they care).

But anyway, I think that we should burn the flags of some other countries and have that broadcasted all over their TV.

I turned my TV off though, war isn't something I want to hear about 24/7 and I'm sick of the news glorifying it.

Odm
March 27th, 2003, 01:39 PM
I'm not pacifist, but I'm not pro-war either. By the way Hobbes, if you're pro-war than basically you're contradicting yourself. By saying that the protestors fighting for peace makes no sense, then how does Bush fighting for peace make sense? (If you're not, then I'm an idiot.)

Maybe the US is doing the world a favour, but he's certainly not doing Iraq a favour. I'm sure the "collateral damage" will really enjoy the regime change... And Hobbes, just because a country's communist doesn't mean it's a horrible country... But I agree that protestors are taking this too far. Whining isn't protesting...

One last thing. Olympus, I don't know where you wear living but I wasn't forced to have 5 minute showers in Germany...

jnick
March 27th, 2003, 02:15 PM
Protestors of this war = The stupidest people in the fucking world

Odm
March 27th, 2003, 02:25 PM
Care to elaborate, or just seem prejudiced?

ReDeeMeR
March 27th, 2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Odm
I'm not pacifist, but I'm not pro-war either. By the way Hobbes, if you're pro-war than basically you're contradicting yourself. By saying that the protestors fighting for peace makes no sense, then how does Bush fighting for peace make sense? (If you're not, then I'm an idiot.)

Maybe the US is doing the world a favour, but he's certainly not doing Iraq a favour. I'm sure the "collateral damage" will really enjoy the regime change... And Hobbes, just because a country's communist doesn't mean it's a horrible country... But I agree that protestors are taking this too far. Whining isn't protesting...

One last thing. Olympus, I don't know where you wear living but I wasn't forced to have 5 minute showers in Germany...


Do you know what you're talkin about??? Have you seen an average Iarq family and how much they make $$$ a year?
What's their education degree? Value of their household?
What are they eating?

People are so fucking easy in their minds AND THAT is the problem, everyone probably thinks that Iraq lived in prosperity, people had free speech and free will etc just like N korea etc lmfao...

You know if someone would go back in time and bomb the whole fucking Berlin or maybe half the country at the very start of the Nazie party they would probably save 10x time more lives then what Nazies killed and destroyed, same goes with our comrad Yousif Stalin... Stalin is probably closer to Saddam H, they both killed mostly their own people.

STOP LIVING IN THE LALALAND!!! #@%$

OlympusXP
March 27th, 2003, 03:35 PM
When I lived in Cologne for a year at a friends house it's common knowledge that you can't take long showers over there. Water is something of a luxury and is used sparely. That's not to say they don't have water, I'm just saying it's not exactly something they have gobs of over there and if you want to be respected you don't take longer than a 5 min shower.

Originally posted by Odm
I'm not pacifist, but I'm not pro-war either. By the way Hobbes, if you're pro-war than basically you're contradicting yourself. By saying that the protestors fighting for peace makes no sense, then how does Bush fighting for peace make sense? (If you're not, then I'm an idiot.)

Maybe the US is doing the world a favour, but he's certainly not doing Iraq a favour. I'm sure the "collateral damage" will really enjoy the regime change... And Hobbes, just because a country's communist doesn't mean it's a horrible country... But I agree that protestors are taking this too far. Whining isn't protesting...

One last thing. Olympus, I don't know where you wear living but I wasn't forced to have 5 minute showers in Germany...

OlympusXP
March 27th, 2003, 03:37 PM
Also odm, either you don't watch the news or you're purposely being ignorant, but so far every Iraqi citizen has been praying and praising the U.S. and British military for liberating them. Many citizens were crying while hugging and kissing U.S. soldiers. There was actually a clip of some U.S. soldiers helping some Iraqi citizens tear down a big portrait of Saddam on a building. The Iraqi people were taking their shoes off and using them to hit Saddam on the picture hehe.

jnick
March 27th, 2003, 05:38 PM
Me = WAY NOT PREJUDICE

You got troops risking their lives over in Iraq for 2 reasons.

1.) To bring in a new Gov't for Iraqi's

2.) To stop the mad man from starting a nuclear/biochemical war.

Then you have 200,000 people over in NY, Cali, and Chicago saying "No war", but mean while they're throwing bottles at each other. That makes sence.

Listen people. The boat already left the port. You can either jump on while you can, or shut up, sit home and watch 20/20 because we are already at war, even if there were 300,000 people, it's not going to stop until someone is victorious. and I think we know who that someone is.

Stony_Pihn
March 27th, 2003, 07:29 PM
not that i am saying anything against you, jnick, because we all know that yes, we will win this war, but we might just become the non-losers, too. if saddam finally guves up, reveals his "smoking gun" and destroys his whole country, how is there a winner? its like a TKO, not exactly bad to get, but definitely not what you want. we want to throw him out, or assassinate him at the least. we do not want iraq to be a deserted (no pun intended) region where nothing lives, more than now i mean. heh heh. but if we only win because there is no more opponent, and its because they killed themself, there is no victory.
on one final note---Fuck Saddam!

cr3am
March 27th, 2003, 07:51 PM
no, what would suck is if saddam doesn't use any biological weapons, and we find out he never had any in the first place

Hobbes874
March 27th, 2003, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by Odm
I'm not pacifist, but I'm not pro-war either. By the way Hobbes, if you're pro-war than basically you're contradicting yourself. By saying that the protestors fighting for peace makes no sense, then how does Bush fighting for peace make sense? (If you're not, then I'm an idiot.)

Maybe the US is doing the world a favour, but he's certainly not doing Iraq a favour. I'm sure the "collateral damage" will really enjoy the regime change... And Hobbes, just because a country's communist doesn't mean it's a horrible country... But I agree that protestors are taking this too far. Whining isn't protesting...

One last thing. Olympus, I don't know where you wear living but I wasn't forced to have 5 minute showers in Germany...
yeah, I think you took what I said in a different way that what I ment. I'm saying that i've seen protestors with signs that say "fight for peace" and how some become very violent during protests. I'm saying that they are contradicting themselves by becoming violent, that's what I ment. And about the communist thing I never said living in a communist country makes it a terrible country! what i'm saying is that we take a lot of things for granet (sp?) and living in a communist country you would begin to understand the freedoms you enjoy in america.