Buy your own AK-47

[absolute_deviation]

NOw that the federal ban on assault weapons has expired, what are you gonna buy? an AK47 will do it for me. :D

[Chimera[NL]]

Let's make another thread.

[cr3am]

Originally posted by absolute_deviation
NOw that the federal ban on assault weapons has expired, what are you gonna buy? an AK47 will do it for me. :D Link?

I want a link to where the ban expired and a link to where i can buy an AK and an m4

[absolute_deviation]

Originally posted by cr3am
Link?

I want a link to where the ban expired and a link to where i can buy an AK and an m4
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040907-120305-2673r.htm
you can buy them at any gun show or military store.

[DanTheMan]

Yay! Time to go on a hardcore killing rampage at the nearest schoolyard with my M249 SAW and SOPMOD M-4!

[Phobo]

only in america
move along

[NiteX]

I'm in America!

[Rhenna]

Looks like I decided to drop in at just the right moment. I haven't bothered to see how the media is spinning the expiration of the "1994 Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act", but I can imagine that this (non-)event is probably suffering from a certain lack of accuracy that typifies how most firearm-related matters are handled.

As guns belonging to a class of weapons capable of firing multiple rounds with a single depression of the trigger, you CANNOT now buy, for example, a genuine AK47 or Colt M4. Nor, could you purchase them prior to the passage of this Act in 1994. Such weapons, (full-auto), have been illegal to sell to the general public in the USA since 1934. ("National Firearms Act of 1934")

While it IS possible to obtain a special license to legally own a weapon capable of firing full-auto or multiple rounds in the USA, there is, as one might imagine, a considerable amount of "government oversight" that goes hand-in-hand with their possession. The last time I read a review of this program, now spanning some 70 years, only four (4) of these weapons had been involved in any sort of skullduggery, at least one of which was a suicide. (That one had to be interesting...)

You MAY now buy 19 particular firearms, or guns that share certain characteristics with these 19 firearms, that were banned for sale these last 10 years. NONE of these weapons are capable of full-auto or multiple-round fire. Guns that are functionally identical to these previously banned 19 weapons were offered for sale during the entire 10-year lifespan of this Bill. Simply put, this is, IMO, a less-than-newsworthy event.

[Hobbes874]

I want an AUG, tee hee!

[dante.hk]

This is what I want.

http://world.guns.ru/assault/m4a1an-pws4.jpg

[Rhenna]

Originally posted by Hobbes874
I want an AUG, tee hee!

Fine, just don't invite the wrath of the Feds. I'm not sure you can reach the AT Forums in Federal prison. ;)

"A violation of the NFA (National Firearms Act, 1934) can result in a
felony conviction, punishable by up to ten years in prison, and/or a $250,000 fine.
See 26 USC sec. 5871.
The US Sentencing Guidelines ordinarily require prison time, even for
a first offense, however various mitigating and aggravating factors can
raise or lower the possible sentence range for a first offense.

In addition, any NFA weapon ever transferred or registered in violation
of the Act, is subject to civil forfeiture. See 26 USC sec. 5872.
A forfeiture proceeding is separate from any criminal prosecution, and
a resolution of a criminal proceeding in favor of the defendant will not
preclude a forfeiture action. See U.S. v. One Assortment of Eighty-Nine
Firearms, 465 U.S. 354 (1984).

A violation of 18 USC sec. 922(o) of the GCA (Gun Control Act, 1968)
can also bring up to a ten year prison sentence, and/or a $250,000 fine.
Again, prison time is likely, even on a first offense. Using a machine gun
or a silencer in a crime can result in a sentencing enhancement of thirty
years, even if there is no NFA prosecution. See 18 USC sec. 924."

[Docta Beeeer]

Two words. Blackwater Security.

[cr3am]

Dude, when I was in Paris for three days, I saw so many army dudes and chicks with FAMASes. They're so fucking cool in real life.

They look way cooler than the m16, cuz I've just seen so many m16s and m16 clones on TV and stuff...

[Striker]

I'll be content with a nice 12-guage pump-action shotgun.

[cr3am]

Originally posted by Striker
I'll be content with a nice 12-guage pump-action shotgun. Were those even illegal?

[PHAT_ASS]

whats with you guys and your fascination for guns?

:p

[dante.hk]

I think a caller in on the radio in GTA3 said it best when he said, "Guns don't kill people, death kills people."

Classic.

And no, 12 guages arent illegal.

[TopSecretBoy]

M40A3. That's all I want.

[Striker]

I never said it was illeagal, I just said I'd be content with one. It is illeagal however if it is shorter than 16" I believe. Also illeagal to have a pistol grip on one, although who would put a pistol grip on a 12-guage, I have no fucking idea. Better be a buff ass guy.

[Smapdey]

I'm a big fan of the Famas because of how many roles that gun can fulfill, literally, that gun can do anything.

However, right now I am of the opinion that it is completely worthless for the good many of us to own guns, and that serious, serious regulations should be imposed. Let's worry less about the gay marriage that isn't hurting anyone, but way more about all of the gun violence that is taking place and that will likely continue in the future.

That being said, I come from a family with lots and lots of firearms, and my childlike curiosity in them has dwendled quite a bit.

[dante.hk]

The way I see it, the people who are going to do illegal stuff with the guns already know how to buy them. If they are banned, they will find a way to get the illegal weapons.

I'm not saying that they shouldn't have regulations, I'm just sayin' that it won't matter to the people who want to do illegal stuff with them.

[Docta Beeeer]

It's the same way with gun registration in Canada. Oh, how legal issues bind us.

[Smapdey]

This is true, but you aren't likely to hear of many armed robberies in palces where they are few guns.

[Docta Beeeer]

I've got so many guns and so much beer it ain't funny.

[future man]

We've got shitloads of pistols and rifles, I love going to the range and I used to love hunting before I became a vegetarian

[Docta Beeeer]

Originally posted by future man
We've got shitloads of pistols and rifles, I love going to the range and I used to love hunting before I became a vegetarian
Why'd you become a vegetarian?

[cr3am]

Originally posted by Docta Beeeer
Why'd you become a vegetarian? Cuz he sucked at hunting. Vegetarian: Indian word for "Bad Hunter"

[REBEL_AU]

Originally posted by DanTheMan
Yay! Time to go on a hardcore killing rampage at the nearest schoolyard with my M249 SAW and SOPMOD M-4! you play too much AA:O/SF. and M249 is a full auto light machine gun and will never be legal.
Originally posted by Hobbes874
I want an AUG, tee hee!
I agree, those guns rock. fortunate for me it is what the australian army uses:D

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

I got this water pistol right here for all you fucks!

Move a muscle and I will make you look like you just pee'd.. biatch!

[Striker]

Shit...:(

[Trustkill]

Originally posted by cr3am
Cuz he sucked at hunting. Vegetarian: Indian word for "Bad Hunter"

HA!!! awesome!


closest I've ever been to a real gun is when I'm standing near a cop. I'd rather jump outta the shadows and jam a knife into someones neck than shoot em. There's just something about having their blood spray across my fist that gets me all giddy.

[MrGood]

i better watch the shadows :eek:

[Docta Beeeer]

Originally posted by Trustkill6six6
HA!!! awesome!


closest I've ever been to a real gun is when I'm standing near a cop. I'd rather jump outta the shadows and jam a knife into someones neck than shoot em. There's just something about having their blood spray across my fist that gets me all giddy.
Yeah, or pushing old people down stairways.
"You know what I like about Rice Krispies, sir? The noise they make when you add milk. You know what I like about elderly people, sir? The noise they make when you throw them down stairs."

[Bobz0r]

my drug dealer lets me play with his gun
.45 mini desert eagle with a whole clip of hydro-tips

[FATMAN]

Originally posted by dante.hk
I think a caller in on the radio in GTA3 said it best when he said, "Guns don't kill people, death kills people."

Classic.

And no, 12 guages arent illegal.

actually wasnt it that "Guns don't kill people, people kill people."

i'm confused :confused:

we have a shooting club here, where u can get a AK, Desert Eagle and other weapons to try out. But they arent for sale. :(

[MrBored]

Originally posted by FATMAN
actually wasnt it that "Guns don't kill people, people kill people."

i'm confused :confused:

we have a shooting club here, where u can get a AK, Desert Eagle and other weapons to try out. But they arent for sale. :(
Yeah, I think the original was as you said it, I prefer the modification, "Guns don't kill people, I do." Might have heard it in Postal 2 or some such thing.

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

Bored that's fucking Duke Nukem shit which was copied from some Clint Eastwood shit. Ask Rhenna for details!

As for guns, I would rather not!

[MrBored]

Aah, that makes sense. I can just imagine Dirty Harry letting loose a line like that.

[karny]

Originally posted by Trustkill6six6
HA!!! awesome!


closest I've ever been to a real gun is when I'm standing near a cop. I'd rather jump outta the shadows and jam a knife into someones neck than shoot em. There's just something about having their blood spray across my fist that gets me all giddy.

I hit a cop the other day, people shouldn't stand near people eating kebabs!

[JerraMaya]

<-------------- I have a sperm gun

[karny]

Originally posted by JerraMaya
<-------------- I have a sperm gun

what people don't see is the little cartoon wgara just off screen with his mouth open.

[absolute_deviation]

Originally posted by karny
what people don't see is the little cartoon wgara just off screen with his mouth open.

haaaaaaaa

[TopSecretBoy]

Originally posted by Striker
I never said it was illeagal, I just said I'd be content with one. It is illeagal however if it is shorter than 16" I believe. Also illeagal to have a pistol grip on one, although who would put a pistol grip on a 12-guage, I have no fucking idea. Better be a buff ass guy.

I'd frefer a pistol grip shottie. Like the M3 90 that SWAT teams use, or the Spas 12. :)

[REBEL_AU]

Originally posted by TopSecretBoy
I'd frefer a pistol grip shottie. Like the M3 90 that SWAT teams use, or the Spas 12. :) I prefer the SPAS 15 gotta love magazine loading Shotguns.

[dR.Jester]

What the fuck people. You could still buy these weapons during the ban. The damn news is making it sound like you couldn't and some of them are making a big deal about it. You can get a Romanian AK47 for $297.00 new. An M4 though (like in my sig) will cost over $600 or more.

All the ban did was limit what weapons could have on them. Such as beyonet lug, collapsible stock, and flash suppressor. Some post-ban AK47s could only use fixed 10rd mags. But during the ban you could still purcase pre-ban AK47s.

Anyway, hope some of you guys go out and buy some. Im saving up for this puppy. Its $600.

56k beware
http://www.ak47.com/VEPR%20K%207.62x39%20FS.jpg

Made in Russia. :)

Oh and go to www.ATF.gov if you want official statement on the expiration of this ban.

[Striker]

Oh shit, that gun is fucking beautiful! Send me some videos of you shooting crap with that when you get it!

[TopSecretBoy]

I guess I shouldn't give a shit about this. It's not like it matters in California anyways. (Or so I've been told)

[dR.Jester]

Originally posted by TopSecretBoy
I guess I shouldn't give a shit about this. It's not like it matters in California anyways. (Or so I've been told)

Exactly true. I feel bad for those living in states with unconstitutional laws. TopSecretBoy look on the bright side though. California's laws are going to be taken to the supreme court soon so you guys might have a chance.

The Federal Ban expiration only effected states with no assault weapons laws. So if you live in a state with a law you do not benefit. Check www.Packing.Org if you are one of those states. So far I know of CA and NY but there are others.

Here is a video of my dad firing his awhile back. His is 100% Russian parts. His AK47 (in the video) has a 75rd Drum which as of now is legal to manufacture again and his weapon was and still is equipped with a Hellfire Trigger System. Reason why he is firing his gun like that. A hellfire doesn't make the gun fully auto by selection, it attaches to the gun and uses the recoil of the gun bascially its "bump-firing" if you guys know that termnology.

DivX codec required - Click to view video (http://myweb.cableone.net/wdavis/ak47.avi)

Here is a picture of his AK47. He purchased this weapon during the "Assault Weapons Ban" because the weapon was manufactured before the ban went into affect in 1994 it was legal to purchase it with its cosmetic configuration.

http://myweb.cableone.net/wdavis/ak47.jpg

Enjoy! :)

[Striker]

I can't play .avi videos any more :(. Something got fucked on my computer and it hasn't been able to for a while. Well, hopefully I will when I build my new system this weekend.

[dR.Jester]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

During the ban it was illegal to manufacture and sell high-capacity magazines. Manufacture was restricted to LEO (Law Enforcement Only) and Military use only.

Ive always wanted one of these, 100rds in two 50 round drums. Last price I saw was $600 or more! Now they are $215!!!!

http://www.uws.com/CMAG/IMG/Spec-Diagram1.jpeg
http://www.uws.com/CMAG/IMG/FullM16.jpg

http://www.uws.com/CMAG/IMG/BETAMAG.jpeg

:D

[Striker]

Buy three of them! That's 300 people you could kill! All for only $645!

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

ROLF 645 bucks. We can have 5 Ak's for 300 bucks ha! And a free mag with each of them. The body count calculation can be done by Striker!

[TopSecretBoy]

Originally posted by WhoGivesARatsAss
ROLF 645 bucks. We can have 5 Ak's for 300 bucks ha! And a free mag with each of them. The body count calculation can be done by Striker!

Africa has Ak's for 40-50 bucks a pop.

As for the C-Drum mags, it's funny how the real life counter-part is cheaper than the airsoft version, no?

[REBEL_AU]

in australia you cant really own any weapon in the illegal gun trade is fairly small.

[dR.Jester]

Damn. Sucks to be down under with no toys. :|

[JerraMaya]

my cousin bought a Ak-47 for 10 dollars and used it too kill three people .
he is now in jail :p