anyone have nforce2 chipset and soundstorm audio?

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

man i have my mobo and the onboard sound crackles in cs within 5 minutes...is there a fix for this...look in my sig for my mobo

[RAY16]

I have an Asus A7N8X non-delux model. I get crackling but not often. None of my games crackle really, only a few demos i've tried. A lot of nForce 2 owners have this problem (not just Asus nForce 2 mobos). Some people get it more then others, i'm just happy it doesn't happen often for me. I'm hoping it will be fixed in the next nForce2 Drivers, ot that Asus will release some kind of fix themselves. For now, just try messing around with some settings, in the game and in audio properties.


Games that i play with no crackling:

Soldier of Fortune 2
Half-Life mod Natural Selection
StarCraft
Raven Shield Demo
Unreal Tournament 2003
Bunch of other demos
Rollercoaster Tycoon
Tribes 2
Giants: Citezen Kabuto

Games and programs that have crackled:

WinAMP 2.xx (Doesn't do it with 3)
IGI 2 Demo
And a few other demos that i can't remember right now.



*Edit*

My Rig:

Asus A7N8X Mobo (Non-deluxe)
Windows XP Pro
Athlon XP 2000+
GeForce 4 MX440 64Meg DDR w/tv-out
20Gig 7200RPG HD
4Gig 5400 RPM HD
Altec Speakers
Too lazy to type everything else.


This is a no-brainer, but do you have the newest drivers from nVidia? I'm using the 2.03 nForce drivers from nVidias web site.

[ReDeeMeR]

All on board audio sucks penises....try different drivers.

[Yian]

I'm currently using an onboard sound and it works fine. CS has the sound problem online these days. ZAND, you sure it is not the server's problem, but your mo-bo's sound?

[RAY16]

All on board audio sucks penises....try different drivers.



The on board sound in the A7N8X Deluxe does not suck. Hell, even the non-deluxe version sounds good.



Asus A7N8X Deluxe:

SoundStorm™ / Dolby® Digital Audio

"Experience the full power of surround sound audio with the NVIDIA® SoundStorm™. With the integrated APU (Audio Processing Unit) you will feel the impact in games or music. And with the only Dolby® Digital 5.1 encoder you can hear it all in amazing digital cinema clarity on your home theater receiver or digital PC speaker system."

[ReDeeMeR]

Ya, that's all bullshit there RAY16, it uses your CPU to decode almost everything in software and sofware cant compare to hardware neither in preformance nor in quality.

Of course if you dont really care for audio quality/preformance much, nforce2 solution is perfect.

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

Originally posted by ReDeeMeR
Ya, that's all bullshit there RAY16, it uses your CPU to decode almost everything in software and sofware cant compare to hardware neither in preformance nor in quality.

Of course if you dont really care for audio quality/preformance much, nforce2 solution is perfect.

IT IS HARDWARE EAX YOU JACKASS...not meaning to be rude but to be corrected...

it is everything the audigy is i just dont feel like typing it right now... soundstorm rules except for the crackling part ...

but believe me...its no software bullshit...its definitely as good as audigy if not better :)

[ReDeeMeR]

LOL, you gotta be shittin me lmao, it's way below audigy when it comes to sound quality and EAX, Audigy supports EAX HD while SS doesnt, plus SS uses much more CPU power.

Why the hell do you think it's so cheap eh sherlock?
Get a clue.

[sushi128]

soundstorm would be the first onboard anything i have respect for. as far as gaming sound goes, this thing is amazing. while a card like an audigy naturally beats it in most other catagories, the onboard audio, for once, isn't far behind.

EAX HD is way over rated (wait a second....it's not rated at all. i haven't seen a single thread in all my forum hopping about EAX HD....at all :))

oh, and redeemer, mind you, the words "nforce2" and "cheap" only go together when referring to one who "isn't cheap".

you've obviously been scarred by years of onboard intel video and lame ESS onboard sound.

ZAND....sayin it might be better than an audigy is pushin it ;)

[ReDeeMeR]

Have you even heard EAX HD sushi128? It's "way" better then previous EAX versions and nobody does EAX as good as creative because they developed it.

And yes SS is cheap, it costs them 20-30 bucks to make...

[RAY16]

EAX sucks balls, A3D is way better IMO.... Too bad they are dead now.

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

DOES ss support eax 2....YES IT DOES!!!...does audigy...i dunno but itd be cool if it didnt i would have a way good point there lol

[ReDeeMeR]

See you dont know shit and you dont make much sense to, just told you that creative made EAX so why the fuk do you think they dont support EAX II???

Plus SS isnt half as good @ EAX as creative cards are.

A3D died long time ago, wake up.

[sushi128]

i never said the audigy wasn't better than the soundstorm. here's a good comparison:
http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardware/audigy2_versus_nforce2/page4.asp

go to page 5 for audigy's strong points...

also, the soundstorm is a PCI device, but doesn't actually go through the PCI bus, making the cpu utilization less than the audigy (3% compared to 1.7%? i tested this once...).

and i'd like to see a page on EAX HD? maybe a comparison? it's just i've seen nothing on EAX HD, and i doubt something this good can possibly go unnoticed.

and what support do u have that the EAX on the SS isn't half as good....?

[Yian]

Guys, all calm down and face the truth: onboard can be good but compare to the same level of encoding device on a seperate piece of harware, soundcard rules all. ReDeeMer is right.

I'm using an onboard sound system because I unplugged my soundcard to save power. But I would say go with a soundcard is a wise choice. Onboard usually consumes a lot more system resource, and software can't beat hardware...

[ReDeeMeR]

Originally posted by sushi128
i never said the audigy wasn't better than the soundstorm. here's a good comparison:
http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardware/audigy2_versus_nforce2/page4.asp

go to page 5 for audigy's strong points...

also, the soundstorm is a PCI device, but doesn't actually go through the PCI bus, making the cpu utilization less than the audigy (3% compared to 1.7%? i tested this once...).

and i'd like to see a page on EAX HD? maybe a comparison? it's just i've seen nothing on EAX HD, and i doubt something this good can possibly go unnoticed.

and what support do u have that the EAX on the SS isn't half as good....?


You dont need written comparison of EAX and EAX HD, you need to hear it and obviously you havent, so there's no point of arguing with you.

Simple, Creative made EAX, they are best at it, just like intel is best at implementing SSE and so on...

SS is just good for it's worth, ie almost free you get a decent sound card.... all it is.

[sushi128]

let's not use "obviously" too liberally. it's redundant and doesn't prove your point. you're using the logic that since creative made it, it must be better? let's see how well this logic works. we'll use your example of intel with SSE:

http://www.viperlair.com/graphics/reviews/cpu_mobo/amd/2400xp/sismmx.gif

http://www17.tomshardware.com/cpu/20020402/p4_2400-11.html

alright.....so out goes that argument.

tell u what, i'll go and test out EAX HD, compare it with EAX on my own, and i'll tell u what i think.

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

Lets Face It

redeemer is mad cuz he bought an audigy sound card and is mad that he wasted his money, could have got a mobo with nforce 2 and SS onboard , got way better performance...but he didnt do that instead he bought an audigy for way more money...so he is very angry at himself and the cruel game called life


lol

[Yian]

Let's face it

ReDeeMer is always mad...

lol

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

Some of you young boys need to learn their shit about sound like REDEEMER ...so heres where you can see some shit about it and learn how the game performance on eax is... after this redeemer should just give up lol

Nforce SS does kinda romp on the audigy and every other sound chip to date (well i dunno about m-audio dont know much about that beast...)

CLICK HERE TO BE SCHOOLED (http://www.tomshardware.com/game/20030405/index.html)

[Yian]

Wow, let's not say what we can't take back... ReDeeMer is VERY good with harware according to what I have heard from him, and I'm pretty sure he knows what he's talking about.

Well, if he doesn't always start out his statement with words like "STFU do the research!" or "Noobies don't know shit!" or " don't make sense what are you smoking...!!??", then you will find that he offers great opinions from time to time, so let's just not keep arguing but instead talk about in what condition we should use onboard and when to buy a audio card...

...

...sounds good?

[ReDeeMeR]

Originally posted by sushi128
let's not use "obviously" too liberally. it's redundant and doesn't prove your point. you're using the logic that since creative made it, it must be better? let's see how well this logic works. we'll use your example of intel with SSE:

http://www.viperlair.com/graphics/reviews/cpu_mobo/amd/2400xp/sismmx.gif

http://www17.tomshardware.com/cpu/20020402/p4_2400-11.html

alright.....so out goes that argument.

tell u what, i'll go and test out EAX HD, compare it with EAX on my own, and i'll tell u what i think.

That's SSE1 and those arent REAL SSE benchmarks and the one on toms is irevalent :p. Everyone knows that best "real world" bench is Quake3 and how much more SSE adds for P4 then Athlons.

[ReDeeMeR]

Originally posted by ZANDAMORPHIS
Lets Face It

redeemer is mad cuz he bought an audigy sound card and is mad that he wasted his money, could have got a mobo with nforce 2 and SS onboard , got way better performance...but he didnt do that instead he bought an audigy for way more money...so he is very angry at himself and the cruel game called life


lol


Uhh that's interesting, but that's tom's hardware, really doesnt look to valid but wtf, they probably used lowest quality or something, because from practice those test are total bullshit go to any fucking forum you want and see for your self, people are having much better preformance with pci sound cards, but hey really whatever listen to tomshardware I have np with that :p

Plus I'm very happy with my Audigy and going to buy Audigy2 on my next upgrade and believe me it stomps all over SS :D

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

Originally posted by ReDeeMeR
Uhh that's interesting, but that's tom's hardware, really doesnt look to valid but wtf, they probably used lowest quality or something, because from practice those test are total bullshit go to any fucking forum you want and see for your self, people are having much better preformance with pci sound cards, but hey really whatever listen to tomshardware I have np with that :p

Plus I'm very happy with my Audigy and going to buy Audigy2 on my next upgrade and believe me it stomps all over SS :D

NOO MAN LOOOK AT THE LINK I POSTED REAL SOON AGO>>> OR JUST GO TO TOMSHARDWARE.COM to see the new thing on audio they posted...ss romps on audigy...just check it out...and im not mad at anyone just proving the arguing with benchmarks and tomshardware is a very big site i doubt they dont know what they are doing lol...

[ReDeeMeR]

Originally posted by ZANDAMORPHIS
NOO MAN LOOOK AT THE LINK I POSTED REAL SOON AGO>>> OR JUST GO TO TOMSHARDWARE.COM to see the new thing on audio they posted...ss romps on audigy...just check it out...and im not mad at anyone just proving the arguing with benchmarks and tomshardware is a very big site i doubt they dont know what they are doing lol...


Actualy they know what they are doing, gettin payed up and putting one product over others, only n00bs go on about only with one site's benchmarks, if you dont know what real people experience then you dont know anything but what big corporations want you to know.

I found very little detail of settings they used, this is very likely that sound quality was set to lowest and that's why SS wins.
I'm 100% sure that in extensive EAX or even DD or D3D operations SS is way behind all of those sound cards.

[RAY16]

Well i'm not going to take sides in this, but i will say one thing. EAX takes your frame rate way down in UT2K3. I'm not trying to say one is better then the other, they each have thier advantages and disagvantages. But EAX does have a negitive effect on your FPS in most games.

[sushi128]

i never said the SS was better than the audigy, only that it is the first onboard sound ever that i would consider

[ReDeeMeR]

Originally posted by RAY16
Well i'm not going to take sides in this, but i will say one thing. EAX takes your frame rate way down in UT2K3. I'm not trying to say one is better then the other, they each have thier advantages and disagvantages. But EAX does have a negitive effect on your FPS in most games.


Well... add extra visual effects(like AA), your frame rates dropped didnt they??? *hint *hint ;)

[RAY16]

lol, my GeForce 4 MX440 is too weak to use AA or AF. And no need to point out that what i said was obvious. I was just pointing out that fact.

[Yian]

I have some suggestions for those who want to have a high fps in their games. These suggestion guaranteed to make your games fps improve by 800%.

1) disable all the unnecessary background tasks to free your CPU. Close ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING except rundll32 and explorer.

2) Open the hardware manager and DISABLE ALL hardwares except your mouse, keyboard, and video adapter.

3) Go to the display settings, advanced options, and make all the setting of D3D and OpenGL to the LOWEST, means performance.

4) grab an overclock utility for your video card and drag the bar on both memory clock and core speed ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT, even if that means oveclocking it by 6GHz.

5) restart your computer, enter the BIOS, select the right mutiple and overclock your CPU AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

6) now enter the game you want to test the performance, go to the game's options, and change the resolution to the LOWEST.

7) also, make the game run at 16-bit.

8) make everything you see in the game settings the LOWEST.


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by now, if your computer is still funtional, you should see AMAZING, FREAKING FED, ABSOLUTELY STUNNING high fps in your game. Happy now?

[RAY16]

4) grab an overclock utility for your video card and drag the bar on both memory clock and core speed ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT, even if that means oveclocking it by 6GHz.
5) restart your computer, enter the BIOS, select the right mutiple and overclock your CPU AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.



I'd be carefull with what you say, i know some people stupid enough to listen to that.

[IkYiolul]

Yian, Yian Yian...is that what you used to do with ur old comp...u always told me to run in 16bit lol and overclock.
I need to overclock my gpu...but cant find anything...some help here?

[Yian]

Originally posted by RAY16
I'd be carefull with what you say, i know some people stupid enough to listen to that.
That's great!

[Yian]

Originally posted by IkYiolul
Yian, Yian Yian...is that what you used to do with ur old comp...u always told me to run in 16bit lol and overclock.
I need to overclock my gpu...but cant find anything...some help here?
Ahhh, I never say anything about overclock...! You think I was that nice back in the farm? I probably don't even know how to overclock...

But I did say play everything in 16bit... Come on I had a GeForce2 mx with 32Mb SDR Ram, can't do shit... but it never fail me.

[portzebie]

That is cool!:)

[portzebie]

sorry I posted twice I say something I have no Idea about the hardware in my PC