Psychological Issues

[Docta Beeeer]

no topic

[RogerWilco]

Drugs?

The fact that you are writing about it here means that you are not really serious about it. Maybe you just want/need some attention... or some poontang.

[Chimera[NL]]

Maybe you're bored.

[Docta Beeeer]

no topic

[Downfall]

they know your crazy already, thats what friends are for.

[Digital Limit]

I can't imagine getting up in the middle of the night and uncontrollably writing a letter about suicide, and then stopping myself because I suddenly realise what I'm doing. That seems more and more like a conscious decision you're making and this thread seems like more of an excuse or a cry for help given you're too lazy to send these letters to anyone. I would just stop doing it, and figure out what's making you depressed (because happy people don't kill themselves for no apparent reason).

[TopSecretBoy]

You won't do it, you fucking pussy.

[karny]

Thats a sure sign demons are eating your soul.

[Smapdey]

Have you considered exploring this? When was the last time you did something theraputic that helped out clean out your mind and work around these problems in your head?

[tisl]

I think everyone with a bit of intelligence goes through this sometimes. And it never really goes away, it comes back every few years. It's no big deal really, my theory is that humans were born to pwn. You know, living free like the native americans used to before the capitalists came and raped them. But instead you're stuck with a shitty job and a shitty routine. Eventually you get sick of getting mindlessly drunk and start to feel depressed. The tedium of life just starts to get to you. But then you get over it and go back to whatever the hell you were doing before. Gaming, getting drunk, fucking random strangers, rape, etc. It'll pass, either by actually committing suicide or just getting over it. Just don't start taking pills and talking to a professional. That just makes it worse in my opinion.

[Docta Beeeer]

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[SuperDavidGT]

Depression isn't necessarily feeling sad, it's more a case of being bored, lazy and completely uninspired. If that's the case, get over it, your a teenager (right?) so it's just hormonal and will pass. Or you could just hate yourself. Just get a piece of paper out and rant shit for as long as your hand can take it and see what your mind has come up with, it might give you a clue of what evil demons are lurking within your mind.

As for the seeing people thing... if it's affected your dick then you might want to see a doctor, no man's mental integrity is worth more than his sexual prowess.

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

You need some yoga.

[General Edor Crespin]

That seems more and more like a conscious decision you're making and this thread seems like more of an excuse or a cry for help given you're too lazy to send these letters to anyone. I would just stop doing it, and figure out what's making you depressed (because happy people don't kill themselves for no apparent reason).

Cry for help, yeah.

[unskinnybob]

Past week or two I've been having these suicidal tendencies for no fucking reason and it's starting to piss me off. I've never been like this in my life, and I don't think I'm depressed or anything. But at night I'll get up and go to my computer to start writing a suicide letter and then just stop myself. What the fuck is this...

Nike. Less talk, more action.

[King Speedy]

Somebody give this man a blowjob.

[Digital Limit]

He's been worried about STDs a lot lately - I can only assume he has that covered.

[Kain]

He's been worried about STDs a lot lately - I can only assume he has that covered.


have you not noticed the dates of these posts?

Let dead thread lie

[Yian]

Emmm, i wouldn't consider this thread to be too old. Looks like he could still use some help, too.

[burnart]

you should lighten up, do some new things, maby find out where someone on the forum lives and take a roadtrip, suprise visit to someone you dont really know.....that would be a new thing!
A friend of mine has some chronic illness, no one knows what he has, been to every specialist there is. Anyway he's 19, weighs about 42kg (all skin and bone), his blood is mutated (no one knows how), his metabolism(how quick your food is gone?) is at 200%, he cant eat anything, cause it wont "stick" just comes out right away...looks like he'll have to use a wheelchair soon, and he's going to die early, and worst of all; he's never going to get fucked! :eek:
He knows all of this, still he's not going around writing suicide notes. He does have is a "who cares, Im dying anyway" attitude though (never safe to ride with him when he's driving hehe).
Look at his situation and look at yours. As I said, do something new, like me, I'm joining the navy (have to, its the law), still its something new

[nineball16]

i think doing too much of the same thing can be a problem. it might just be you lifestyle. Irregular eating or unbalanced diet, bad study habits or routine (if you study), not enough/too much exercise, problems in relationships with friends/family and uncertainty in your life can lead to a combination of problems especially mental health

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

Another alternative is to just die.

[spiderslam13]

If you haven't had problems like this before, or at least, not up to admitting that you have, perhaps you're internalizing. Some kind of past childhood trauma is trying to resurface eh?

[Docta Beeeer]

no topic

[spiderslam13]

Very possible. Most ppl just dont deal with the shit that affects us as kids if it was too traumatic, and then it bites us as we get older. Not to instigate you had a bad childhood, but maybe you should do some digging.

[Docta Beeeer]

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[Bigolli]

Whoa dude. Just read the thread (a lil late), hope you get this under control, and work out what's causing it.
Keep us posted =)

[SuperDavidGT]

If you haven't had problems like this before, or at least, not up to admitting that you have, perhaps you're internalizing. Some kind of past childhood trauma is trying to resurface eh?

Go Freud, go!

Beer, just see a fucking therapist already, do a once off consultation. If they're smart they might just tell you to get some more fibre and iodine into your diet. I've said it before, I'll say it again - your young, assume its hormones first, mental problems second.

[Docta Beeeer]

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[Downfall]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/OhGodtheRats/emoemujaredhindman.jpg

[Bigolli]

Hahahaha nice one downfall. Still you're an asshole! hehe

[nineball16]

Go Freud, go!

Beer, just see a fucking therapist already, do a once off consultation. If they're smart they might just tell you to get some more fibre and iodine into your diet. I've said it before, I'll say it again - your young, assume its hormones first, mental problems second.

heaps of people go through this shit. I agree, its just hormones and nutrition and shit like that.

[Downfall]

^^ :D

[Vlad]

I'm writing about it here because it's an issue, and I don't wanna tell too many of my buddies at college cuz I don't want this to get out and having people thinking I'm crazy.

If you feel so depressed that it's making you torture yourself by thinking about suicide, then simply find another, less life threatening way of torturing yourself.

Go to the gym, and lift weights, make sure they get heavier and heavier, take up kickboxing, Thai style, and train by punching wood or cement, headbutt a few coconuts, kick a few trees with your shins, punch yourself as hard as you can in the chest, get a knife and make a few shallow cuts on yourself every time depression sets in.

No matter how shitty things get, if you let yourself go because you think life is too boring or too tough, then you're a pussy. Never give up! The only reason you're alive is to fight death.
Have patience, death will come, we all die eventually, but make sure you go down with a fight, not by your own hand, you pussy.

How do you think I feel? I just failed 2 years of uni, $25,000 in tuition fees just went down the drain, I lost my Job, my only girlfriend ever left me because I'm "too boring" and I'm a practical household slave having to put up with constant verbal abuse simply because I'm living on my parent's property, and they make me pay weekly rent and buy my own food.

I just say: Bring it on FUCKERS! I take it like a man!

And if this gets worse, then I will simply take it harder. My purpose is to survive. What is your purpose? Find one, before your pussy instincts take over for good.

[SuperDavidGT]

If you feel so depressed that it's making you torture yourself by thinking about suicide, then simply find another, less life threatening way of torturing yourself.

Go to the gym, and lift weights, make sure they get heavier and heavier, take up kickboxing, Thai style, and train by punching wood or cement, headbutt a few coconuts, kick a few trees with your shins, punch yourself as hard as you can in the chest, get a knife and make a few shallow cuts on yourself every time depression sets in.

No matter how shitty things get, if you let yourself go because you think life is too boring or too tough, then you're a pussy. Never give up! The only reason you're alive is to fight death.
Have patience, death will come, we all die eventually, but make sure you go down with a fight, not by your own hand, you pussy.

How do you think I feel? I just failed 2 years of uni, $25,000 in tuition fees just went down the drain, I lost my Job, my only girlfriend ever left me because I'm "too boring" and I'm a practical household slave having to put up with constant verbal abuse simply because I'm living on my parent's property, and they make me pay weekly rent and buy my own food.

I just say: Bring it on FUCKERS! I take it like a man!

And if this gets worse, then I will simply take it harder. My purpose is to survive. What is your purpose? Find one, before your pussy instincts take over for good.


awww. now go kill yourself

[Docta Beeeer]

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[Digital Limit]

If you feel so depressed that it's making you torture yourself by thinking about suicide, then simply find another, less life threatening way of torturing yourself.

Go to the gym, and lift weights, make sure they get heavier and heavier, take up kickboxing, Thai style, and train by punching wood or cement, headbutt a few coconuts, kick a few trees with your shins, punch yourself as hard as you can in the chest, get a knife and make a few shallow cuts on yourself every time depression sets in.

No matter how shitty things get, if you let yourself go because you think life is too boring or too tough, then you're a pussy. Never give up! The only reason you're alive is to fight death.
Have patience, death will come, we all die eventually, but make sure you go down with a fight, not by your own hand, you pussy.

How do you think I feel? I just failed 2 years of uni, $25,000 in tuition fees just went down the drain, I lost my Job, my only girlfriend ever left me because I'm "too boring" and I'm a practical household slave having to put up with constant verbal abuse simply because I'm living on my parent's property, and they make me pay weekly rent and buy my own food.

I just say: Bring it on FUCKERS! I take it like a man!

And if this gets worse, then I will simply take it harder. My purpose is to survive. What is your purpose? Find one, before your pussy instincts take over for good.

Good read.

You're very Maddox-esque; maybe you should write a book.

[Vlad]

awww. now go kill yourself

But that would be going against everything I believe in, as my post you're quoting clearly suggests.

Stop wishing me to die. I know were enemies, but where is your respect? Respect your enemies or they will walk all over you.

Good read.

You're very Maddox-esque; maybe you should write a book.

Well thankyou.

[SuperDavidGT]

Respect your enemies or they will walk all over you.


I respect those worthy of respect, not the white-trash hillbilly portion of society. Anyone who fails at uni, has sexual affairs when theyre young (if i remember correctly), lost his job and was dumped by the only pussy he might ever get, obviously for someone less ugly, and still has nothing to do with his life except take the shit thats given to him doesnt deserve respect.

You strike me as someone who has no worth in society, but still likes to parade around and whinge about how god shits on him from high above, wearing black clothes and emo haircuts. Hence why I say go kill yourself; not for your benefit, but ours.

[Digital Limit]

Damnit David, you just made him sad. Now he's going to add that to the list of totally emo things he can whine about, and it'll end up in his inevitable book thanks to my reccomendation.

[tisl]

Haha, Vlad, you're full of shit. You're going to snap out of it eventually, that whole feeling tough when everything blows act never stays up too long.

[LynX]

I think everyone goes through that "OMFG DEPRESSION WANNA KILL MYSELF!" period, sooner better than later. Goddamn hormonal changes.

Best remedy is do something that requires concentration or just listen to music.

Or you could just help refine the gene pool:

[san_pali]

No matter how shitty things get, if you let yourself go because you think life is too boring or too tough, then you're a pussy. Never give up! The only reason you're alive is to fight death.
Have patience, death will come, we all die eventually, but make sure you go down with a fight, not by your own hand, you pussy.
..................
And if this gets worse, then I will simply take it harder. My purpose is to survive. What is your purpose? Find one, before your pussy instincts take over for good.
I partially agree,no one should ever give up without puttin' up a fight. but, sometimes, finding a purpose to wake up and go through the same shitty routine everyday, is pretty much imposible.
Sometimes, i think i'm not dead because i'm just too pussy to kill myself

[SuperDavidGT]

I partially agree,no one should ever give up without puttin' up a fight. but, sometimes, finding a purpose to wake up and go through the same shitty routine everyday, is pretty much imposible.
Sometimes, i think i'm not dead because i'm just too pussy to kill myself

sounds like you might be a little depressed. most of depressive cases have nothing to do with peoples lives, but actual chemical and metabolic problems within their bodies. try regulating your diet and making sure you get 30 mins of exercise a day and you'll probably feel better

[nineball16]

http://www.afrison.com/fun/newsletter/justdoit.jpg

[Vlad]

I respect those worthy of respect, not the white-trash hillbilly portion of society. Anyone who fails at uni, has sexual affairs when theyre young (if i remember correctly), lost his job and was dumped by the only pussy he might ever get, obviously for someone less ugly, and still has nothing to do with his life except take the shit thats given to him doesnt deserve respect.

You strike me as someone who has no worth in society, but still likes to parade around and whinge about how god shits on him from high above, wearing black clothes and emo haircuts. Hence why I say go kill yourself; not for your benefit, but ours.

:rolleyes:

I had no idea you knew me so well, who are you? My psychiatrist? Let's try and stay within the realm of reality when trying to throw a few layers of negativity onto a person we do not even know, shall we?

That's a good boy.

My pity towards you grows exponentially, with every ill conceived post you compose, let me tell you something beneficial, something designed to spare you any further embarassment.

You don't know me, and I don't know you, any negative comments directed from you at me only serve to belittle you even further in my eyes.

What is this I hear you saying? You don't care what I think? You don't care that your insults are falling on deaf ears, and at times, even making me roll my eyes, in shame, your shame? Then that is definately a problem we may need to address.

I am the most reasonable personality you will ever have the opportunity of meeting. I want to help you, but to do that, I will need your 'partial' co-operation, at least.

Let us start right now. All 'you' need to do, is refrain from insulting me and others you disagree with.

When you have mastered this ability, I will guide you through the next, slightly more complicated phase.

:)


aha, Vlad, you're full of shit. You're going to snap out of it eventually, that whole feeling tough when everything blows act never stays up too long.

Feel free to participate tisl. Remember, I am only here to help.

sounds like you might be a little depressed. most of depressive cases have nothing to do with peoples lives, but actual chemical and metabolic problems within their bodies. try regulating your diet and making sure you get 30 mins of exercise a day and you'll probably feel better

This is a good start.

[tisl]

sounds like you might be a little depressed. most of depressive cases have nothing to do with peoples lives, but actual chemical and metabolic problems within their bodies. try regulating your diet and making sure you get 30 mins of exercise a day and you'll probably feel better

Depression isn't a chemical imbalance. See, human were given this thing called "consciousness". Unlike other animals, they can't survive if the only thing in their lives is reproduction and work with a bit of entertainment here and there. That's why humans have philosophers and religion. To try and find meaning. However, some humans are unable to find a meaning in religion nor an explanation with philosophers, and therefore get depressed. These humans have something in addition to consciousness, called "intelligence". Some of these humans with "intelligence" are able to accept the lack of meaning and enjoy their life, while others are unable to do so.

[Vlad]

Depression isn't a chemical imbalance. See, human were given this thing called "consciousness". Unlike other animals, they can't survive if the only thing in their lives is reproduction and work with a bit of entertainment here and there. That's why humans have philosophers and religion. To try and find meaning. However, some humans are unable to find a meaning in religion nor an explanation with philosophers, and therefore get depressed. These humans have something in addition to consciousness, called "intelligence". Some of these humans with "intelligence" are able to accept the lack of meaning and enjoy their life, while others are unable to do so.

At times, depression can indeed be a chemical imbalance, however, this 'imbalance' is a little more complicated than what the initial implication suggests.
Of course, depression is not always caused by physical factors in the brain, but in fact more often by a combination of physiological, psychological and circumstantial issues prevalent in the life of the afflicted individual.

Aside from this though, I see what you're saying, but are you implying that humans are the only organisms on this planet with consciousness?

I hope not.

We are neither the only organisms with intelligence.
Intelligence as we know it, can be found in many of our closer cousins, and even the more distant ones, such as dolphins, horses, dogs and even pigs are very intelligent, more so than dogs and horses for example.

I partially agree with the rest of your statement, those that have a particular 'faith' or religion have something to lean on, when the going gets tough, but that is not to say that religious people lack intelligence.
There has been a study conducted that suggest there is indeed a 'god spot' in the human brain, the prevalence of this area is only present in those genetically predisposed to it. i.e, wether you can willingly and unquestionably accept the concept of faith as a way of life or not is partially determined by your very genes.
But this data is still in it's infancy.

I accept that life has no intrinsic meaning, but I also accept that we can create meaning to make life more worthwhile, if we are not happy with the status-quo.

This is where religious beliefs, philosophy etc come from, although we don't have sufficient evidence, or in the case of religion, any evidence at all, we are still able to concoct some sort of meaning to make our lives more bearable.

It is true that religious people lead more stable and predictable (and thus more successful) lives , but maybe this has something to do with the 'god spot' I brought up earlier.
Why is religion so prevalent in todays technologically driven world? Maybe natural selection, at least in relation to the current socio-economic systems we have in place to govern ourselves, favours the individual with a less questioning outlook on life? Maybe not. Nobody at this time has a universally accepted answer.

You want to know my personal opinion on all of this? I sincerely believe, that our only purpose is to reproduce, and thus prolong our species. And I also believe that unwittingly, we as a species, are reaching for perfection, we are trying to better every aspect of every part of our lives. It is science and social progression, that is leading us down this road.

Even religion, as conservative as it may be at times, evolves in tune with this road of progression. A road that we have been on since the dawn of recorded history.

Relating all this back to the psychological issues we are trying to settle in relation to this thread, I believe a person should be free to choose whatever method is available, short of giving up their life, to ease the suffering and lack of will to continue.
Most evidence points to the idea that you only ever live once. So why waste it? It doesn't have to be a successful life in the eyes of others, how you feel at the end of it all, is all that should matter to you. It is your life after all.

Once again, you only get to live once.

[tisl]

Those animals are intelligent, yes, but the dolphin doesn't get depressed because he wants more in life besides splashing around in the water and eating fish. Pigs don't get depressed because they get sick of rolling around in shit. They're intelligent in their own way. Humans are a very different animal.

Survival isn't a meaning, it's hard for a human to accept that the only reason they're alive, the only purpose of their life, is to survive. From a scientific view you're right, but psychologically, there's no way anybody can actually accept that as the meaning of life.

I disagree with the "god spot". I think what makes you believe in god or not is determined by what your childhood was like, which also determines your intelligence and personality. Every baby is born "pure", and the kind of people they turn out to be is shaped during their childhood. As a child I never believed in god because the only person that was there for me was me. It was just a matter of trust. I didn't trust adults who taught me religion because they weren't there for me, and just seemed like pricks trying to convince me that a fairy tale is real. Then as I got older, I had another reason to stop believing in god, my common sense developed. Now, that makes more sense as a reason for me being an atheist than genes.

There's a difference between being intelligent and being smart. In my eyes, when a person accepts and believes in a major religion, and not just their lessons, they aren't intelligent. How can you call someone intelligent when they actually think everything in the bible or (whatever their holy book is) actually happened? They can be intelligent if they follow the religion because of its way of life and the lessons it teaches. But when they take the stories as fact instead of lessons, there's no way they can be called intelligent. Excelling in school and work doesn't necessarily mean intelligence.

Are you saying that suicide is wrong? Because in some cases, it's the best option. Some people have had terrible lives and are so badly scarred that they no longer have the will to live. Every person has a final limit, and when they reach it it's not right to ask them to live when they think of suicide. It's so easy for people to tell them "Hey, you can make your life better." But some people just can't, they don't care anymore. They're finished.

[Vlad]

I don't have much time, but I'll point out a few things.

Firstly, I pretty much agree with everything you're saying, you've made your point of view a little clearer than before, and now I totally see where you're coming from.

However, as for the following statement:
Survival isn't a meaning, it's hard for a human to accept that the only reason they're alive, the only purpose of their life, is to survive. From a scientific view you're right, but psychologically, there's no way anybody can actually accept that as the meaning of life.

I agree except for the fact that I can indeed accept that as the meaning of life. I don't see why anyone else couldn't learn to accept in.

And the following quote:

Are you saying that suicide is wrong? Because in some cases, it's the best option. Some people have had terrible lives and are so badly scarred that they no longer have the will to live. Every person has a final limit, and when they reach it it's not right to ask them to live when they think of suicide. It's so easy for people to tell them "Hey, you can make your life better." But some people just can't, they don't care anymore. They're finished.

I don't believe in right or wrong, good or evil or any of that shit. All I'm saying is that if someone is chronically depressed, everything should be done to cure them, just in case it may still be possible, and if not, then death indeed may be the only answer.

However, I don't fancy the 'final' option, because I view death as wasteful and inneficient. All individuals should be utilised to their fullest potential. Why not send the suicidal individual to some sort of slave labour camp, where they can die in the process of producing something beneficial for the rest of us?

Ok I went too far, but it just highlights my dislike for needless death.

Then again, a person wasn't asked to be born, they were just brought into this world by someone else, so if it's really shitty for them then this person should have the right to end their own life.

I picture some sort of 'suicide booth' in the distant overpopulated future, where death is quick and painless. You just walk in, throw in a quarter, and the end.

You see however, the human state of emotions is a very dynamic system, One day you may feel like killing yourself, and another you may be perfectly happy, so rushing head-first into a suicidal scenario may not be wise, because it could be something you would have otherwise regretted, had you lived to see another day, after this time of depression had passed.

[SuperDavidGT]

what is this, a scientology discussion? tisl, i hate to tell someone that their philosophical viewpoint is wrong, but there is strong statistical evidence that says as much as 80% of cases of depression are chemical. all it takes is a metabolic imbalance, a bad diet, a stressful event or even a fucked up gene that makes hormones do things they aren't supposed to. humans are biological machines and they need to be maintained.

and vlad, i dont disagree with you. i agree with you, to a minor extent. your just full of shit and you lie through your teeth. therefore, like many people in western society you not worth the money spent by taxpayers to keep you alive. having said that, i think its time for you to get off your high horse and come down to reality.

[Vlad]

what is this, a scientology discussion? tisl, i hate to tell someone that their philosophical viewpoint is wrong, but there is strong statistical evidence that says as much as 80% of cases of depression are chemical. all it takes is a metabolic imbalance, a bad diet, a stressful event or even a fucked up gene that makes hormones do things they aren't supposed to. humans are biological machines and they need to be maintained.

and vlad, i dont disagree with you. i agree with you, to a minor extent. your just full of shit and you lie through your teeth. therefore, like many people in western society you not worth the money spent by taxpayers to keep you alive. having said that, i think its time for you to get off your high horse and come down to reality.

Fair enough, just no more verbal abuse ok? Then it's settled. :D

As for me not being worth the money of taxpayers etc, well that is not true, I still pay for my own way in life, and contribute quite a bit to the community around me. I happen to be a Communist. Money has no meaning to me, it's only a very dirty tool I'm forced to use because everybody else uses it.

The day the concept of money is forgotten is the day we eliminate 80% of all our problems.

[tisl]

Vlad: Yeah, you have a point there. For survival, suicide is pretty inefficient. But a suicidal person doesn't give a shit about survival of the human race.

SuperDavidGT: I know that those things can be the cause of depression. Some people are depressed even though nothing bad has happened to them. The truth is, I used to get ticked off when someone told me I was depressed because of a chemical imbalance. I was just defending the other kind of depression. I suppose I should have said "depression isn't always a chemical imbalance" instead.

[SuperDavidGT]

I was just defending the other kind of depression. I suppose I should have said "depression isn't always a chemical imbalance" instead.

my bad, i was half asleep so i wasnt paying too much attention

and vlad, piss off you pussy communist bullshitter. settled my ass, go back to eastern europe where people still care about the red revolution

[tisl]

Sweet! Looks like we're going to get a new forum flame war to replace the African guy vs. the Dutch guy (I'm not good with names). I think I'm going to like this one more, the previous one was more about wit. This one is more "melee". You didn't see things like "piss off you pussy communist bullshitterr" and "you don't care that your insults are falling on deaf ears, and at times, even making me roll my eyes, in shame, your shame?" in the previous one. Flame wars seem to improve with each new one. The first major extended one I can remember was between the drunk womanizer and the paki (the one who sucks at english), that one was pretty boring. It was more of a one-liner flame war than an actual flame war. Anyway, enough off-topic-ing. I'll shut up now.

[Vlad]

:p

[Chimera[NL]]

Did I hear someone say Dutch?

[Doomeh]

I'm inclined to assume (yep) that most depressions are circumstantially inflluenced, thus have little to do with dinner and what not. I am however acutely aware that many things in life can be taken over seriously and produce said depressions. Thankfully talking about it on a forum like THIS shows that either 1. he's not serious and wants attention, or 2. he's a very open person who values the opinions of the people gathered here....

I'll let you guys be the judge, I haven't been here long enough for that kind of stuff :D

[SuperDavidGT]

I'm inclined to assume (yep) that most depressions are circumstantially inflluenced, thus have little to do with dinner and what not. I am however acutely aware that many things in life can be taken over seriously and produce said depressions. Thankfully talking about it on a forum like THIS shows that either 1. he's not serious and wants attention, or 2. he's a very open person who values the opinions of the people gathered here....

I'll let you guys be the judge, I haven't been here long enough for that kind of stuff :D

short of ranting more, i'll just say 1. would be your best option.

btw planescape torment wasn't that great. Baldurs Gate II raped it sideways :D

[Doomeh]

"Gasp of dismay and incredulity"
Character and plot delevopment, to say nothing of the writing and scope of the story, though great in Baldur's gate 1 and 2, was limited compared to Torment. It sports some of the best writing in a game I've ever encountered, unlocking Dak'kon's circle of Zerthimon? The conversations with Npcs (Trias, Ravel, Transcendent One...) and pcs (Vhailor, Nordom, Dak'kon, Ignus)? You simply don't really have that in BG2. All you have is female characters that start to love you almost immediately, including your own sister and someone who's just lost her husband, and reasonably optionless conversations with the others that won't really help you out... granted they were fun the first run through the game, but after several times it gets a little old (of course all this is praise in itself for BG2, but compared to Torment...). Some of the conversations in Torment just didn't get old.
Also the main character in PST has a lot of character development. Face it, in the BG series all you really develop of yourself is incredible powers through your divine heritage (including your party members... which of course makes a lot of sense) whereas in PST you have a party that should actually become fairly powerful (a sword wielded by the mind of someone that could shape 'the power to unmake the planes itself' should be a pretty powerful sword =]).
Ah well, I just really appreciate how PST gets better and better and is a game that really made ME think (what CAN change the nature of a man? :)) and still has a lasting impression even though I played it immediately in 1999, I pretty much replay it once a year because I miss it, I don't have that with any other game.

[SuperDavidGT]

1) way to jump off topic with a rant

2) chill, dude

3) vlad sucks

[Vlad]

1) way to jump off topic with a rant

2) chill, dude

3) vlad sucks

:rolleyes:

[unskinnybob]

If you feel so depressed that it's making you torture yourself by thinking about suicide, then simply find another, less life threatening way of torturing yourself.
Go to the gym, and lift weights, make sure they get heavier and heavier, take up kickboxing, Thai style, and train by punching wood or cement, headbutt a few coconuts, kick a few trees with your shins, punch yourself as hard as you can in the chest, get a knife and make a few shallow cuts on yourself every time depression sets in.
No matter how shitty things get, if you let yourself go because you think life is too boring or too tough, then you're a pussy. Never give up! The only reason you're alive is to fight death.
Have patience, death will come, we all die eventually, but make sure you go down with a fight, not by your own hand, you pussy.
How do you think I feel? I just failed 2 years of uni, $25,000 in tuition fees just went down the drain, I lost my Job, my only girlfriend ever left me because I'm "too boring" and I'm a practical household slave having to put up with constant verbal abuse simply because I'm living on my parent's property, and they make me pay weekly rent and buy my own food.
I just say: Bring it on FUCKERS! I take it like a man!
And if this gets worse, then I will simply take it harder. My purpose is to survive. What is your purpose? Find one, before your pussy instincts take over for good.

Your life sucks, you're australian and you lied about duke nukem. Kill yourself.

[Doomeh]

Yep he's right, nothing to live for anymore mate, I feel for you, I really do ("there could be tears" hehehe)

[Mechanerd]

To cure suicidal tendancies you need to kill someone else.

[Yian]

To cure suicidal tendancies you need to kill someone else.
Sometimes I really hope some of you guys are just joking. :eek:

[Striker]

What? Who's joking? Whenever I'm feeling a bit down, it always brings a bit of warmth to my heart to see a guy getting shot in the face a few times by a couple of sweet 7.62 rounds.

[Doomeh]

And THAT's why video games are good to avoid violence :D

[farsimon]

the African guy vs. the Dutch guy

that's South African guy to you mister...

[tisl]

Bleh, same continent.

[Doomeh]

Yeah Dutch by itself could take on a continent, we have an army of politicians, I don't see any country whip that!

[Chimera[NL]]

Yeah Dutch by itself could take on a continent, we have an army of politicians, I don't see any country whip that!

Yeah beware our smooth spindoctor Balkenende.

[Digital Limit]

Depression isn't a chemical imbalance. See, human were given this thing called "consciousness". Unlike other animals, they can't survive if the only thing in their lives is reproduction and work with a bit of entertainment here and there. That's why humans have philosophers and religion. To try and find meaning. However, some humans are unable to find a meaning in religion nor an explanation with philosophers, and therefore get depressed. These humans have something in addition to consciousness, called "intelligence". Some of these humans with "intelligence" are able to accept the lack of meaning and enjoy their life, while others are unable to do so.

Yeah, there's no meaning. It boils down to me enjoying life a lot, and then dying.

[rekopzorz]

Yeah, there's no meaning. It boils down to me enjoying life a lot, and then dying.



And thats why there is religion. Becuase people dont want to believe your life ends when you die.

[Docta Beeeer]

no topic

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

So, I figured this all out... Since I left for college I've been drinking even more than before... Not that I wasn't drinking a lot back home, but here it's like twice the quantity. Alcohol is a depressant, so I'm guessing due to the high consumption of alcohol almost every day, I've sorta made myself depressed. I'm staying dry until New Year's Eve and getting back to my old self.
Sounds like a plan.

[schnitzel_bob]

Are you one of those students who drinks his face off and still gets kick ass marks, leaving those of us who work our asses off at uni or college to sit and simmer in hatred?

[Docta Beeeer]

no topic

[Downfall]

i find a beer or 12 helps me to focus

[schnitzel_bob]

Oooh, by gods you better believe I'm simmering right now...

[Docta Beeeer]

no topic

[SuperDavidGT]

Are you one of those students who drinks his face off and still gets kick ass marks, leaving those of us who work our asses off at uni or college to sit and simmer in hatred?

You mean, he has a life and jesus loves him enough to let him be successful while you idiotic retards spend your whole time studying and ironically failing?

I'm in Beer's boat. And I hate people like you. I'm smart, I succeed without much effort and people cry. I drink to get down to their level of stupidity to level out the playing field and you still bitch.

[schnitzel_bob]

You mean, he has a life and jesus loves him enough to let him be successful while you idiotic retards spend your whole time studying and ironically failing?

I'm in Beer's boat. And I hate people like you. I'm smart, I succeed without much effort and people cry. I drink to get down to their level of stupidity to level out the playing field and you still bitch.

Wow, I guess you're right, I'm just a moron who works hard at school and gets good grades. Maybe I was being a little bitchy Mcbitch bitch. That said, feel entirely free to go to hell. Being an atheist, I don't believe in that mumbo jumbo, but I try to respect other people's beliefs, so...

[RacerX]

Now, if you boys can't get along, we're gonna have to separate you. OK, I mean it.

But damn, all you guys talking about college and shit makes me feel old. I gradiated wit honas in '93 from tech schoo. Datsa longass times ago.

[Downfall]

eh, dont feel bad, we have everyone from teens to their 50's here.

[schnitzel_bob]

But damn, all you guys talking about college and shit makes me feel old. I gradiated wit honas in '93 from tech schoo. Datsa longass times ago.
You be one old ass mafucka

[SuperDavidGT]

Wow, I guess you're right, I'm just a moron who works hard at school and gets good grades. Maybe I was being a little bitchy Mcbitch bitch. That said, feel entirely free to go to hell. Being an atheist, I don't believe in that mumbo jumbo, but I try to respect other people's beliefs, so...


bitchy Mcbitch bitch? im disappointed. why can't the noobs come up with some more tantilising insults? most of them these days just come out with the "im better than you because im assertive" bullshit they teach you in health ed, like bob here and that self-righteous skirt-wearing piece of shit called vlad.

so very boring, people. one comes to atrip so one can experience catharsis in the form of hating and abusing everyone here so that one may feel better, making one less inclined to beat one's significant other.

as for feeling free to go to hell, no, i dont feel like moving in with your mother. ive been there, and she sucks. badly

[schnitzel_bob]

Why you gotta hate?

I tried to write a big ass message insulting you and Australia, but it just seemed stupid. Chalk it up to me being Canadian: we're too polite. Also I'm a lazy lazy bastard. Oh, and tell your mom she forgot her dentures at my place.

[SuperDavidGT]

Why you gotta hate?


Why your english so poor?

[schnitzel_bob]

At least I don't live in a country that was originally a british penal colony.

[farsimon]

hahahaaaa! for a moment I thought it was nancy posting, but then I saw it's GT instead.

bob you're wasting your time, GT is proving to be even more stupid than chimmy... he won't get it...

[RacerX]

JUST STOP IT! I'm having an emotional cramp right now from all this disharmony.

And on another note, one of my favorite sentences:

Fuck the fucking fuckers. (it's a great philosophy as well)

And what was this topic about anyway, o yeah, the Docta was gonna kill himself (please don't) and then he figured out it was all the beer!??! I love ATrip.

[tisl]

Heh, penis colony.

[Docta Beeeer]

no topic

[SuperDavidGT]

hahahaaaa! for a moment I thought it was nancy posting, but then I saw it's GT instead.

bob you're wasting your time, GT is proving to be even more stupid than chimmy... he won't get it...

won't get what, genius? what's there to get? its just random shit back and forth, but hey, your the one who comes on to internet forums and takes everything so seriously. holy shit no wonder everyone has a go at you for not making sense. go play with your toy ships and quit butting in

At least I don't live in a country that was originally a british penal colony.

at least im not a part of a bastard breed of american and french culture

this is pointless, now ive had my say just let this shit get back on topic :p

JUST STOP IT! I'm having an emotional cramp right now from all this disharmony.

Sorry man, i'll kiss it better later ;)

[farsimon]

won't get what, genius? what's there to get? its just random shit back and forth, but hey, your the one who comes on to internet forums and takes everything so seriously. holy shit no wonder everyone has a go at you for not making sense. go play with your toy ships and quit butting in



at least im not a part of a bastard breed of american and french culture

this is pointless, now ive had my say just let this shit get back on topic :p



Sorry man, i'll kiss it better later ;)
only the abusers have a go at me... but then again they abuse everyone they encounter, shithead.

I was simply pointing out a fact, sorry it hurt your feelings...

[caregirl]

I've heard your problems on many occasions ... and this honestly comes as no surprise to me. You sound bi-polar half the time. You should get some help. Your main concerns in life consist of nothing other than

1. Being liked
2. Your appearance
3. How others see you
4. Getting drunk
5. Getting layed

so eventually at some point you are going to feel like you life is meaning less. It's a part of growing up. Things that were satisfying in HS are no longer satisfying. You are a really nice guy, but you might want to think about getting some help. Or reevaluating your priorities, but that usually isn't easy to do on your own. If you wanna talk you know where to find me.

[Vlad]

won't get what, genius? what's there to get? its just random shit back and forth, but hey, your the one who comes on to internet forums and takes everything so seriously. holy shit no wonder everyone has a go at you for not making sense. go play with your toy ships and quit butting in



at least im not a part of a bastard breed of american and french culture

this is pointless, now ive had my say just let this shit get back on topic :p



Sorry man, i'll kiss it better later ;)

:rolleyes:

Here we go again...have you already forgotten our little arrangement? Sometimes I just feel like giving up on you, but I'm not that cruel.

[farsimon]

I've heard your problems on many occasions ... and this honestly comes as no surprise to me. You sound bi-polar half the time. You should get some help. Your main concerns in life consist of nothing other than

1. Being liked
2. Your appearance
3. How others see you
4. Getting drunk
5. Getting layed

so eventually at some point you are going to feel like you life is meaning less. It's a part of growing up. Things that were satisfying in HS are no longer satisfying. You are a really nice guy, but you might want to think about getting some help. Or reevaluating your priorities, but that usually isn't easy to do on your own. If you wanna talk you know where to find me.
it might help if you direct your post at someone specific...


...mainly because you just described almost 90% of all atrip regulars...

[caregirl]

it might help if you direct your post at someone specific...


...mainly because you just described almost 90% of all atrip regulars...


It is Docta Beer's thread about his issues. So it would make sense if I was talking to him about his issues. I think that who I was talking to is implyed because of the person that posted the thread and what the thread is about. I wasn't trying to cut him down, or anyone for that matter. I was just trying to give him some advice.

EDIT: and suicidal thoughts are not something to be taken lightly even when coming from someone who is histrionic

[JerraMaya]

, penis colony.


you want it ?

[tisl]

How the hell did you manage to fuck up a quote? And no, I'm not a homosexual if that is what you are implying, good sir.

[schnitzel_bob]

'Is your refrigirator running, cause if it is, it's probably running like you: Very Homosexually! Nyahahahahaha!'

[SuperDavidGT]

and suicidal thoughts are not something to be taken lightly even when coming from someone who is histrionic

LOL that's a little harsh

[unskinnybob]

Suicide is the one thing you don't have to worry about too much about getting wrong the first time round.

[JerraMaya]

And no, I'm not a homosexual if that is what you are implying

feeling guilty ?

anyways i understand :rolleyes:











no hard feelings