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jnick
April 15th, 2003, 06:27 PM
I'm a 10th grader. I'm like the "smartest" kid in my classes. Not always true. Though I'm in today's world. I'm not some nerdy dude who wears skin tight jeans and reads 24/7. I don't read books on my spare time, and I dress in today's clothes. I just find the classes easy. Well anyway: (Ex: Biology average for 3rd quarter: 99)
Me = SHY
I don't really talk in school. I guess you could say I'm not "social". If someone talks to me I will reply, but I will barley star a convo, unless it's a good friend of mine. The thing is that there are girls that have liked me, but like I said I'm not to social. I would never talk to them. It's not that I'm scared, it's just that I really had nothing to say. There's this one girl I liked, and I know she likes me, at least a little. we almost hooked up last summer, but I don't really "hang-out" with friends much either, well that's really because of the parents. I am pretty funny. I'll come back with funny things to say, or be VERY sarcastic at times. I mean there are some classes where I don't even TALK the full 40 minutes.
I really think I need to get more "involved". There are so many chances I could of had, that I blew. My parents won't let me even go out most of the times with friends. So I'm kind of screwed there. So I'm really trying to get with this one girl. The one advantage I have is that I perform magic. Street Magic. The up-close in your face kind. Not cheasy kid stuff either. So I do have that on my side, but that's about it.
You guys have any tips for me? To get more "involved" or even to hook up with this girl? Though I really don't want my grades to drop, so I don't want to see some people say "fuck school". I rather do better in school then have a girlfriend.
Put it this way, I'm turning 16 this summer...haven't frenched a girl yet :(. I'm 5'2 102 pounds. Short and skinny, but pretty strong. 19 pull-ups w00t!
So what do you guys think?
Downfall
April 15th, 2003, 06:35 PM
what are your parents reasone for not leting you go out?....maybe you could reason with them or come to some sort of compramise.
Are they controlling parents or over protective or anything like that?
jnick
April 15th, 2003, 07:25 PM
OVER PROTECTIVE
They are just starting to let me go to the corner store when I turned 15.
I'm not even allowed to go down to the local park by myself to play baseball, then when we play on the front lawn (pathetic isn't it) and the kickball, or softbase ball hit's the house, I get in trouble.
RAY16
April 15th, 2003, 07:32 PM
Bitch slap them. They think they are doing a good thing, but its doing more harm then good.
jnick
April 15th, 2003, 08:07 PM
Lol...But I wouldn't do that.
I'm 100% serious. What can I do, any one have any REAL advise?
Not to say that your's wasn't good Ray, but that's something I would NEVER do.
NirvanaFan2006
April 15th, 2003, 08:18 PM
i have WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY over protective parents and i know what you mean, i am not turning 16 soon, im almost 15 tho. I dont get the girls, i havent had a g/f yet. All i know is that if you want to get ur parents to be more resonable.. is from personal expierience. I had to snap, and practicly be in VERY bad mental state for things to start getting better. When i got in trouble, i defended my self and stated what i felt, and at times i had to yell at them to comply. If they truly love you then they should want you to feel bettter about your social status and who you are. Dont yell at them at first, just bring it up to them and get a convo going.
IkYiolul
April 15th, 2003, 08:22 PM
I used to be exactly like this in 8th grade...I had really good grades and all. But once I started gettin social, u can guess what happened to the grades. I think it made me an alot happier person tho, and now working at the studies I have higher grades. I'm finishing my first year up in college now...
I would say just relax man..go talk to them ask them a question that you are curious about. Especially girls, thats why they are easier to talk to because theres better questions to ask. I mean, if you want to know what types of movies this girl likes go ask her...or just say hi and how was ur day. Be nice, not perverted, and you just might get laid!
Hobbes874
April 15th, 2003, 08:31 PM
I know where your comming from, I used to be that way up until about 7th grade they I just exploded in a way with tons of social skill and friends. I used to be skinny but I'm now about 5' 9" and about 125lbs (still going up). Just lift weights at a gym (if your parents will let you have a membership) and eat a lot of protein! then BAM! the pounds will start comming on. Next, just start to talk to people with same intrests as you. for instance: books, tons of people love books (expecially girls, if you know what I mean) and if you love computer games i'm sure there are people in your grade who also love video games (it's impossible if there arn't any) just listen at first and then start peeping in with comments and just kick the notch up from there.
Smapdey
April 15th, 2003, 08:39 PM
I'm 6'1", 150 pounds, Skinny/fit, Pretty Smart, Pretty Fast, Moderatly Strong. My parents are protective, I wasn't allowed to do a lot of things as a child. I've never fucked a girl but I've gotten plenty of head from lots of different women and the girls think I'm at least moderatly attractive.
My advice is to debate your way out of the rules. Give them the proof that you've got a 16 year good record, and you want to act like a normal teenager. Cite the fact that once you leave the house you're not going to be able to cope with the world you haven't been living in. Tell them you will still maintain the golden record you have, but you want some freedoms.
If that doesn't work, you get to do it the hard way. Become a terrible little shit to them. You're a smart kid and probably know at least something about explosives and toilets and hotel plumbing systems. You tell them that unless they give you what you want, you will make their lives hell until either you all wind up in jail or they cave.
Trust me here, I've had to do both. If you parents punish you, punish them for punishing you. If your parents say something that you can use against them in an argument about your freedoms, exploit it. Be prepared for the long fight, but don't worry, you will get through it. It's something we've all had to do at least once (I think).
Hobbes874
April 15th, 2003, 08:52 PM
lol you have to be fast to escape the furry of Micheal!!!!
Freakonaleash89
April 15th, 2003, 08:54 PM
If that doesn't work, you get to do it the hard way. Become a terrible little shit to them. You're a smart kid and probably know at least something about explosives and toilets and hotel plumbing systems. You tell them that unless they give you what you want, you will make their lives hell until either you all wind up in jail or they cave.
ROTFL LMAO Smadey ur so fuckin hilarious!
All you people with problems with overprotective parents... I have the same problems!!! Well jnick start talking to the girls you like. Girls can be so wonderful and yet a pain in the ass too so watch out. I dunno I don't have girl problems really I'm a little shy about talking on the phone but thats the only social problem I have besides overprotective parents. I see kids with "normal" parents and it just seems like it would be so cool to be them and have freedom. The grass is always greener on the other fuckin side...
STDStud
April 15th, 2003, 09:23 PM
My parents arent over protective, but i am shy as hell, and dont have any balls to ask a girl out, yea sure i will reply to a girl if she asks me a question. I am 16 going on 17 in may and still havent had a g/f, so dont feel to bad, but the parents being way to overprotective sucks majorly, like others have said try to compromise with them, tell them your 16 and you think its time you can go out and do things, just set up some kind of curfew with them.
Yian
April 15th, 2003, 10:28 PM
jnick, my advice to you:
Don't do anything
Here is how it works:
1) You grew up in an over-protective family.
2) You go to a college after the high school.
3) You live on Campus or rent an apartment, and away from your family.
4) From your "not-social" expreinece, you will have absolutely no girls, and few friends. People make fun at you the first year. You cry.
5) You start to learn that people's words aren't everything, You know a lot of things they don't, and you are a lot smarter.
6) Soon, you learn how to channel your talent through the right actions.
7) Guys start to respect you more. Girls notice you.
8) Many friends come to you, not for fun or anything, but your personality, your uniqueness, and how true you are.
9) Among many girls, you fell in love with one, and she does as well...
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58) You have your first kid. You are the happiest couple in America. Your friends cheer.
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207) Now, when you look back, you know that time has solved many things for you. You are now at the end of the line, and God welcomes you to your eternal happy life.
Downfall
April 16th, 2003, 12:31 AM
parents will get over being over protective....they will have to....especialy once you get to college.....then they realize that they cant controll you completely anymore....
IkYiolul
April 16th, 2003, 12:49 AM
Dam Yian that means alot heh.
True, follow Yian's Idealistic attitude, you will win in the long run.
If you think you can handle it.
Freakonaleash89
April 16th, 2003, 08:51 AM
Dude get out there socially and if you make mistakes, then learn from them and go on. Thats what I have done and thats what seperates me from many other guys that just keep going on in their error especially with girls. Girls love me and thats that. It hasn't always been that way but I learned from my mistakes where other guys I know haven't.
Overprotective parents are still a nagging pain in the ass. In college though they can't control you... My mom will certainly try as much as possible. She has said that if I dont act "right" in college she will not pay for my school anymore. My dad says thats bullshit u cant control him and laughs. Good old dad...
JerraMaya
April 16th, 2003, 09:48 AM
Yian made some good pionts jnick i guess u should try to be positive and look at the good points in ur life , think what ur parents are over protective thats a blessing some people just throw there children away even when they are born and still they manage to live there life , be patient things will change when u grow up and make ur future plans ,parents wont be there for u forever but till they are there u dont know ur one of the lucky kids many are not
so dont think its insulting or stupid , its normal life which many take as a joke but in the end with the past behind them they do realize they were wrong when they have there own children under there training and they treat them as they were treated , so dont worry time will change everything , for some it takes less time for some with good parents guiding them takes a bit more time but things change forget that they wont and for u they will change in better way than in a worse way coz of ur parents guidence ok :D
wmgreer
April 16th, 2003, 10:38 AM
Yian has some very good points. I had some very protective paremts when I was growing up. I had to finally sit them down and make them listen to me ( it can be done,just don't go about it in a defensive way!) Maybe asking for a trial period will work, say a month and if you don't get into any trouble and keep your grades up, they'll relax. I am a parent now with two kids(7 years and 8 months) and I realize now that most of the over-protectiveness was them being worried that I'd do something really stupid to ruin my life.
As for the girl, if you have trouble talking to her, perhaps write her a letter. Talking will get easier later. But don't wait to long.
Sorry this is so long!!
:) ;)
aphremen
April 16th, 2003, 05:00 PM
I was lucky growing up, my parents trusted me. Too bad I wasn't lucky with the ladies like j-nick.
aleincaveman
April 16th, 2003, 08:58 PM
Jnick I think that what Yian had to say was the best advise of any that I read so far. And I'll tell you why.
I'm probably as old as your parents. I have a doughter thats 19 now. I also have a son who's 13. I never see neither of them. And it eats me to death.
This is what I'm trying to say though. Your lucky that your parents are like that. Mine were the kind that did'nt give a shit. I ended up on drugs and just plain fucked up. I was like you, I was'nt very social. And I never knew how to act.
I was shipped to any relitive that would have me at the first sign of trouble. I was always getting into trouble. Nothing serious but enough that I was shipped someplace else as quickly as possiple. I grew up feeling like the family pass down. I felt like a piece of shit. So I turned to weed and alchole to feel better about life and myself. Soon it became a servival tool for me and I was living to get drunk or stoned. And thats how I grew through my teens. I never learned how to deal with life, or my feelings soberly. I ran from them and hid them even from myself.
Note that this is to all of u guys. I don't mean to preach. I'm just telling you what happened to me. I hope you don't trash me for it.
I was smart. I was so much into electronics that in 1976 I designed a walkman stereo like device. No lie thats true. They did'nt come out till 1979. But I started using weed and drinking to fit in someplace. And I threw away my life. I did'nt realize it as I did.
Be very picky of who u call ur friends.
U got to understand that this world is very unforgiving. It does'nt take some drastic murder, or anything like that. even a little thing can ruin u forever if u don't have the money to buy ur life back. And thats the magical word. Buy ur life back. And really it was my own fault. Because I placed getting high and drunk above paying fines that I needed to pay. And so today I'm stuck with working low wage jobs and walking or riding a bisicle every place. I don't have a drivers license I can't go to a event, or even to a Walmart. I'm lucky to even have a computer, or the web.
I believe that we're all like rats in a maze as we grow up, hell all of ar lives. And ur at a place that u can go left or right. Be aware be very aware that it is a turning point in ur life. And what ever direction u chose well effect the rest of ur life profoundly. I know that u are needing to get out from your parents wings. Thats natural. But u got to understand that ur at the point of the change between childhood and adulthood and alot of the choices that u make now well effect the rest of ur life. I know, I chased the camal toe and did anything to get to it. {4 those who don't get that. A camal has 2 toes.And it's whats between those toes thats important.}
I know that ur harmons are driving u nuts. But get used to them. For they can destroy u if u let them. Jacking off is not a shameful thing we all have done it now and then. I got a recipe 4 that if u'd like to know ask.
The thing I wish that I'd known is that girls ar'nt that important in life. The inportant thing is learning and getting your financial life together. Because u well want to be able to provide good for your family before u start one. That way if ur wife trashes u, u can still provid well for ur children and be a part of thier lives. And be able to buy ur life back if u fuck up here and there.
I hope that u can understand that your parents are just trying to protect u from the fuckups that they made themselves. Or that they saw others make. They only want better 4 u then they got. Any caring and loving parent does.
Just remember that anything is ok in moderation. Kind of like how excesive masterbation leaves sores on ur cock. But don't let it take over ur life. That includes sex. Learn how to deal with life and your feelings soberly or u won't be able to deall with them at all. Live to better ur life and not to get stoned and drunk. And 4 Gods sake don't smoke cigarettes. U might find urself at 42 and needing viagra to get it up. God thats humilating, I hate that.
I remember how that these asshole would advise me not to do drugs and drink. I'd ask them if they ever did them. And they'd always say no, so I never listened to them. Because I figured that they did'nt know what they was talking about. But I do. I've been there and done that. I'm the in ur face result of drug and alchole abuse. I'm a worthless piece of shit to my children and to sociaty. My life is ruined and being that I can't afford to pay some fines that I owe. I'll never be able to get anyplace. I don't feel sorry for myself. It's all my own fault. Getting stoned and drunk was more important. Now I have trouble studying, consitrating, and learning. I used to be very creative. I've dreamed for years of having a computer and learning graphics, and creating websites. But now it's like I learn something today and the next day I can't remember it. I started out 2 years ago using win 3.11, dos. And it crashed all the time. And everytime I had to refer to books to fix it agian. Even if I did the same thing the day before. The thing is that if u keep getting stoned and drunk 4 years. It gets this bad. So feel lucky that ur parents care so much for u. U could end up like me doing stupid shit and fucking up ur life. U could ask urself if u want to be bevis or butthead. I think I was Butthead. U don't see it coming. Ur 2 busy getting stoned and drunk. Ur 2 busy chasing camal toes. U see once u get it u can't live without it. Ur always chasing it. Even if it fucks up ur life. And sleeping, snuggling is the worse thing of all. It can get to where u can't sleep without a woman next to u. That is if u end up in a live in . It'll make u crazy. Hell love well do that. Don't be in a rush to experance that. Just be ur self and enjoy ur life while u can. learn and have fun without drugs and alchole. I guess it comes to this. Don't make urself live with having to let ur children down by not being there 4 them. It'll make u want 2 die!
U guys have ur whole lives ahead of u. Understand that it don't take much 2 destroy it. The little things can fuck u also. They did me.
Now flame me if u want I don't care realy. But now I have a half foot because of drugs and partying.
Now all of u know who I am. I used to be human. But now I'm an alein. The internet is all the contact that I have to the rest of the world. Except for the minimum wage part time job that I have. And why? Because I was more intrested in getting stoned then bettering myself. I've been the guy that u have seen staggering down the street. I been the homeless guy pushing a grosery cart down the street full of glass and cans. Digging in ur dumpsters 2 survive. God I wish I could make a website for them.
I just want 4 u 2 understand that it was more important 2 me 2 party then 2 better myself,and so this is what happened 2 me.
Think about that 4 awhile. And then ask urselves why ur parents are so protective?
And by the way all those things that are under my post. There all true.
And after awile u could find urself running around a square room looking 4 that far left corner that penny is in. :( :( :( :( :D
RAY16
April 16th, 2003, 09:13 PM
Holy crap, thats a long reply.
IkYiolul
April 17th, 2003, 01:00 AM
Man, I hear you loud and clear...Im so worried about my future, Im freshman in college, fucked up my first term by too many parties and just not caring really...I finally got in gear this sym and now im gonna be pissed I cant get a 3.0 for the year, because I did really good this term.
I have a girlfriend, clear 1500miles away, going out to see her in may finally because I just got a car (which my mom payed for eh..) I still dont have a job, I'll have a job this summer to help pay back my mom, but I simply cant and she knows that, Im severly in debt to her...just like everyone else (but a lil more cuz the 10k for the car hehe) cuz it costs somethin like 300k to raise a child from infant to 18. Imagine how much money you save for yourself without having kids! Average person makes like 1mil in the lifetime or something...
But I hate statistics so Im gonna pull away from that. I used to be a 8th grader that had a B average in school...after that I started making friends and doing stuff to hang out with friends, which took away time for my studies I guess and my endurance to keep plugging at the books...I dont regret it anymore, I've finally been able to pull my B average in my first year of college (only this semester unfortunately) and thats the only thing I used to regret is I didnt get the grades.
But I look at my friends "me:what are your grades like man ....friend:I got a 3.5 but im tryin for a 3.7 next semester" what the fuck...I also have another friend:"yo matt I got on dean's list" thinking inside...wtf man fuck you and your fucking dean list. I get so mad about this. But in a way I do less work, I do what I want and I get good grades on it. All the while playing my favorite games having fun in my free time and making friends and hanging out. I would much rather live a happy life consistently than forcing my grade to think in the only grades possible are either A or F. Im just sick of all the damn smart people...I can do it better than you if it was a job. Its just like the guy said earlier when he was flaming me that taking a class didnt mean shit because its common knowledge to the computer enthusiast (I never took a class for it tho lol)
...do I feel I can do a better job because it is common knowledge to me and I just dont feel like proving it to other people? What do you guys think about this?:rolleyes:
Yian
April 17th, 2003, 01:16 AM
aleincaveman said that my advise was good, but he's advise actually is the greatest of all. How could we not look at ourselves more thoroughly, more carefully, after someone has given us such a valuable lesson?
Thanks a lot, aleincaveman. :)
Downfall
April 17th, 2003, 06:50 AM
wow.....great advice!.......now theres a life lesson everyone can learn.....