New computer nid opinion

[Method1]

i going to buy a new computer some time in march and am still not decided on wat chipset to buy, processor and wat kind of ram to use. nid opinion, p4 3.02ghz is definitely out of the question because its too expensive

[|)U(|(0F|)3@TH]

Don't know much about the Intel side, but I love my Nforce2 + Athlon XP + DDR PC2700. ~ $300 total (1800+, 512MB) from Newegg.com.

http://www.nforcershq.com/
http://www.amdmb.com
http://www.futuremark.com

[Method1]

yah i was thinking of that combination as well, but am wondering if u went with amd do you nid additional cooling, cuz i think their chips overheat pretty quickly, we're not considering overclocking here

[|)U(|(0F|)3@TH]

Not at all if you get the Athlon XP. They're very cool. You can even overclock them by about 100MHz without additional cooling. Definitely browse through the Futuremark forums to find out what they can do.

I know the P4's are equally overclockable. I don't think you can go wrong either way, although the Athlons may still offer better prices for equivalent performance.

EDIT: oops, I missed your comment that you're not considering overclocking. Anyway, Athlon XP has no heat problems. Don't think you don't have to put a heat sink on it, though. That goes for every CPU you buy today.

[Yian]

Don't forget to pay a visit to www.arstechnica.com, where you can find tons of information if you are buying parts to build your own machine! I was looking for a quiet yet powerful power supply (Oxymoron...?) and this is the only site where I found some useful tips.

[Yian]

Some AMD's chip gets hot easily... so make sure you stick to Athlon XP. Don't even bother to look at any P4 shit. They are way overpriced.

[|)U(|(0F|)3@TH]

Hey Yian, I was recently looking for quiet PC components too, and found the following two sites helpful:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/
http://www.quietpc.com/

[Method1]

thnx! i initially thought of buying a amd barton but i can't seem to find them here in the philippines. yah p4's are extremely overpriced here, thats why am thinking of going for an amd system. i'll check out ur recommended sites thnx!

[Yian]

Thaknks, |)U(|(0F|)3@TH, They are some good sites indeed!

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

about 1200 bux i built for my pc...look at my sig for info on it...
thats without windows xp and it is sooooo fucking fast i love it...get a el cheapo case but get a 100 dollar power supply atleast 400 watts...ull love it when u need it...dont get a cheapo power supply that youll regret in the future
and get a better video card than mine

[Method1]

btw i forgot to ask...
via provides 4in1 drivers for their via based motherboards... does SiS provides drivers for their chipset based boards?

[absent]

Intel Pentium 4 / 2.8 GHz Northwood 512K Socket 478 Processor 533MHz Processor Bus Retail $380

ASUS Motherboard for Intel Pentium 4 Processors, Model #P4GE-V/L $140

KINGMAX Memory 256MB PC2700 DDR RAM Model# MPMB62D-683 $120 (for 2 of them)

WD Hard Drive (depends on the size you want) ($75-$130)

Antec Case $100

GeForce 4 Ti 4200-4600 $2xx

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

Originally posted by absent


KINGMAX Memory 256MB PC2700 DDR RAM Model# MPMB62D-683 $120 (for 2 of them)



That kingmax memory sux ass dude, dont get it. it dont overclock well at all and uses new bga style memory but its really not that good yet, needs to be optimized, even though all it is , is a new style of saudering. anyways, dont get kingmax, get corsair or geil, both good kinds of memory!

[aphremen]

Yeah, and 2 sticks of Geil 512mb pc2700 cl2.5 cost $120 from newegg, your friendly low price dealer.

[sushi128]

if you're not gonna get a P4 3ghz, then you should tell us your credit limit :)

[Hobbes874]

Originally posted by absent
Intel Pentium 4 / 2.8 GHz Northwood 512K Socket 478 Processor 533MHz Processor Bus Retail $380

ASUS Motherboard for Intel Pentium 4 Processors, Model #P4GE-V/L $140

KINGMAX Memory 256MB PC2700 DDR RAM Model# MPMB62D-683 $120 (for 2 of them)

WD Hard Drive (depends on the size you want) ($75-$130)

Antec Case $100

GeForce 4 Ti 4200-4600 $2xx
+ monitor $100-700 (CRT or LCD)

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

Originally posted by aphremen
Yeah, and 2 sticks of Geil 512mb pc2700 cl2.5 cost $120 from newegg, your friendly low price dealer.

Why not just opt for the cl 2 it will optimize ur fps a lil bit

[aphremen]

Well, maybe there's something wrong with my system, but I haven't seen that much of a gain as far as memory timeings go. Not enough to make up for the insane price.

[sushi128]

the cl2.5 stuff will run at cl2 easily anyway

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

Originally posted by sushi128
the cl2.5 stuff will run at cl2 easily anyway

nahh not if its cl2.5 rated, especially if u get that samsung pc2700 thats just an overclock from the 2100 or 2400 chips... like kingmax and crucial wont be stable at cl2 setting,

[sushi128]

i've got a kingmax stick. it's cl2.5, and runs at cl2. the thing is, i always assume that a chip can overclock just a little. i've only had crucial once, and it was a cl2 stick, so i don't really have anything to say about that.

the kingmax stick is just sittin here ATM.....have some Geil that goes a lot further :D

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

How about this system

Athlon XP 2700+
ASUS A7N8X Deluxe
512mb pc 2700 ram
radeon 9500 pro
60 or 80 gb seagate barracuda 7200 rpm
a 19" monitor
a nice soundcard.. maybe hercules
and a dvd drive at the least..

must cost u around 1000$s and pretty cool stuff

[Method1]

am using 2 kingston 256 ddr 333, for a total of 512. gaad asus takes too long to release a bios update. i just hope they fix some issues with their 8x agp

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

Originally posted by WhoGivesARatsAss
How about this system

Athlon XP 2700+
ASUS A7N8X Deluxe
512mb pc 2700 ram
radeon 9500 pro
60 or 80 gb seagate barracuda 7200 rpm
a 19" monitor
a nice soundcard.. maybe hercules
and a dvd drive at the least..

must cost u around 1000$s and pretty cool stuff

haha, thats MY EXACT SYSTEM pretty much except for the vid card waiting for 9800 pro retail to come out lol, i payed about 1200 for mine total haha look in my sig why didnt u just say zandas system...lol hardy har har, its pretty nice though

[sushi128]

the 9800 pro is out. get it quick buddy :)

http://www.newegg.com/app/Viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=manufactory&catalog=48&manufactory=1561&description=&srchFor=9800

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

Originally posted by sushi128
the 9800 pro is out. get it quick buddy :)

http://www.newegg.com/app/Viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=manufactory&catalog=48&manufactory=1561&description=&srchFor=9800

ahh thats a cheap oem one, i already seen that but i doubt i will get that one cuz its soo new, i wanna wait a bit for a decent retail version comes out with a warranty and bundled stuff like games maybe ??? as long as it has a pretty box...lol

[sushi128]

yeah, i wouldn't get it either. it's suppose to retail at 400$, so wait for the gigabytes and guillemots :D

although i've found that the bundled games are usually games i already have :rolleyes:

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

Originally posted by sushi128
yeah, i wouldn't get it either. it's suppose to retail at 400$, so wait for the gigabytes and guillemots :D

although i've found that the bundled games are usually games i already have :rolleyes:

i want the hercules, its bundled with raven shield, so im gonna sell my copy of raven shield and get a free one and get the coolest blue vid card with blue leds on it WOWEEE!

[sushi128]

guillemot=hercules

[ZANDAMORPHIS]

Originally posted by sushi128
guillemot=hercules

i thought so but then i just thought well maybe not and decided to reply hah

[Yian]

Guess what I got when I bought my video card from Hercules? Morrowind!!! It is good to get a new video card and being able to test it's perofrmance with a demanding game that come with it. Nice-looking water!

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

yeah water in morrowind is cool.. btw zanda didnt notice ur system.. haha.. that was really stupid.. ok.. i admit.. anyways.. hercules new card simply rocks joes ass.. man its way too cool.. i like copper.. i am going to get a copper heatsink custom built by a person here in pakistan but in a month or two for my radeon 9700 pro.. i am thinking all copper just like the one that comes with ATi.. should be a good thing if the person can make it.. really would love a copper sink just like ATi puts it on their cards.. but for now its only wishful thinking!

[sushi128]

ATI's stock HSF is all copper? i should check that out....

[IkYiolul]

It just makes me want a better vid car more than ever to hear my friend has 9700...

[WhoGivesARatsAss]

abt the copper sink.. I said i am thinking abt a custom built copper heatsink.. the way ATi has it.. ok wrong statement but i meant that ATi has a nice plastic heatsink with fins on it and a nice fan.. i am thinking if i can get someone to make the same thing but all copper this time around.. wouldnt that be cool.. the design is perfect for a copper cooler.. just a thought though.. i gotta find me a nice workman.. for it.. will do so when i have time..