LOTR: BFME II Reviews/Impressions

[Digital Limit]

I completely forgot to Gamefly this beast, so it'll be some time before I end up playing it.

Luckily, I have reviews to tide me over until I finally am allowed a taste of the first successful RPG to hit consoles.

IGN's review is here (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/716/716469p1.html).

8.2'd

The good:

The good thing about the controls is that they're built for console players. They feel like they should. Nearly every action is one to three steps away, with face buttons and even bumper buttons coming into play with relative ease. EA's sharp innovation and risk pays off, for the most part. These controls don't feel forced or half-assed, and you'll pick up the whole thing in a matter of five or 10 minutes.

The bad:

To be fair, all RTS games have slowdown. But where the early levels consistently switch from a high of 30 FPS to lows of 25 FPS, the later levels deal out slowdown that actually prevents you from clicking on or controlling anything for a few seconds. It's rough. In the last two levels of the good and evil campaigns the framerate takes a serious beating.

Feel free to post others.

[Digital Limit]

Xbox 360 threads are great, 'cause it's basically forum masturbation.

Nevertheless, here (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/strategy/battleformiddleearth2/review.html)'s Gamespot's review.

8.3'd

[RAY16]

The game sucked on PC, I don't see it being any different on the 360.

[Dark_Swordmaster]

I never played it. But it's LotR. It's BOUND to fucking suck.

[Digital Limit]

The game sucked on PC, I don't see it being any different on the 360.

Sucked?

IGN gave it a 9.0.

Not to mention the advent of an RTS on the console is very innovative.

RAY, you're such a negative nancy.

I never played it. But it's LotR. It's BOUND to fucking suck.

Naive little punk.

[RAY16]

Sucked?

IGN gave it a 9.0.

Not to mention the advent of an RTS on the console is very innovative.

RAY, you're such a negative nancy.


Sorry, I didn't realize I wasn't entitled to my own opinion. I think the game sucks, and I also think that IGN can go suck an egg.

Sticking an RTS on a console isn't innovative, its been done before.

[Digital Limit]

It has been done before, but it also has been done terribly every time.

This time, it has been done right.

As for your opinion, you stated it like it was a fact.

"The game sucked on PC, I don't see it being any different on the 360" implies that it got some kind of terrible reviews and that people distinctly don't enjoy the game.

On the contrary, it's not a bad game, at least not objectively.

[RAY16]

It has been done before, but it also has been done terribly every time.

This time, it has been done right.

As for your opinion, you stated it like it was a fact.

"The game sucked on PC, I don't see it being any different on the 360" implies that it got some kind of terrible reviews and that people distinctly don't enjoy the game.

On the contrary, it's not a bad game, at least not objectively.

You took it that way. I'm not responsible for people misinterpreting what I say. When you say something its is usually a given that it's your opinion unless you specifically state it as fact and provide proof (i.e."The game sucked on PC, I don't see it being any different on the 360. And that's not just my opinion, that's a fact. Just look at these horrible reviews *links*.")

I don't feel it should be necessary for me to begin every statement with "I think" or "In my opinion". If I'm not speaking in behalf of someone else, and I haven't provided any sources that validate my statement as a fact, it should automatically be taken as my personal opinion.

As for BFME2, the only reason it works so well on a console is because of its use of squads and its overall simplistic control scheme (even on the PC). The Ground Control games would work equally well on consoles.

[Digital Limit]

Eh, if you're going to be vague, then you're simply leaving yourself open to misinturpretation.

[RAY16]

I don't feel that I was vague, you just assumed I was attempting to state a fact without proof. If you're going to make a assumptions, then you're simply leaving yourself open to looking like an ass.

[Digital Limit]

If I'm forced to assume, then you're being vague.

Nevertheless, overall opinion is that the game is good and its console adaptation is good as well, not to mention innovative no matter how you slice it.

[RAY16]

If I'm forced to assume, then you're being vague.


You weren't forced to assume, you chose to. If you were so unsure, you could have asked me to clarify, or came up with a response that addresses the issue of it being my opinion in an elongated and less condemning manner (i.e. "You are entitled to your own opinion, but if you meant that statement as fact, you're way off. Regardless of your personal feelings on the game, the general consensus is that the game is good.").



Nevertheless, overall opinion is that the game is good and its console adaptation is good as well, not to mention innovative no matter how you slice it.


Innovative? No. Unique? Yes. It's unique in the fact that it's an RTS that apparently translates well to a console (or rather, to a controller.), but that's not innovative. Just because RTS games are new to a platform it doesn't instantly make a genre that has been around forever innovative, especially when the game in question adds nothing new to it.

[Dark_Swordmaster]

You know, Ray has a point. If you misinterpret something that isn't complete gibberish, broken langauge, or horribly (and incomprehensibly) worded, you're at fault. Besides, everything is an opinion, unless it is either backed up by facts or an opinion of such wide acceptance that it should be considered a fact.

Such as my previous post stated, my opinion is that it sucks because it's Lord of the Rings related. Now is this a fact? No. For instance, many many people gave the hack'n'slash series of games very positive reviews and comments. I didn't care for them, and said "These games suck!" Now, that would seem to have no evidence backing it up, and instead quite a bit of evidence to the contrary, but I am guaranteed my opinion by not the right to say what I want, but the ability.

Take Farsimon's vendetta against you for instance. He hates you. He openly called you a dick licker. Now, most likely, you have never done such an activity (a higher percentage of the male population, especially in "our" age range is heterosexual). So it's obviously not a fact, and therefor it's an opinion. Whether it's right or not doesn't matter, it is still an opinion.

So by all means, like, love, worship this game. But I feel it's my choice to say it sucks, be it true or not.

[Digital Limit]

Innovative? No. Unique? Yes. It's unique in the fact that it's an RTS that apparently translates well to a console (or rather, to a controller.), but that's not innovative. Just because RTS games are new to a platform it doesn't instantly make a genre that has been around forever innovative, especially when the game in question adds nothing new to it.

It hasn't been done before, so that is innovative. That game has paved the way for RTS's to come, so how can you argue otherwise? Innovation is unique by definition, so denouncing my claim by supporting it makes about as much sense as saying, "Whoa, black isn't black because black is black!" Anyways, it's all semantics. In the end, what EA has done is something to be acknowledged and not pissed on because you have a personal bias against the game's PC counterpart. "Sure, the game's controls are innovative, but the game itself isn't, so overall it's a crock of poopy stuff!" Right, that make a lot of sense.

As for your little "it's all opinion anyway" rant, I give in. Right when I was replying I thought back to Maddox's remark about everything on the net being an opinion, and I knew I should just let it go. It's an obvious fault on my part, but still... you said the game sucks, and it really doesn't! You just didn't like it. How is that not vague? Not to mention you're being completely black and white about the situation. Mind sharing why you don't like the game? I might be dropping cash on the 360 version, so I'd like to hear the other side of it.

[RAY16]

Alrighty, the game isn't innovative and it also sucks. I'm glad we've settled that.

Good day, sir.

[Digital Limit]

You're worth my time. Thanks a lot.

[Vlad]

The game is pretty good. I play it on pc. A just like the whole middle earth setting. I'm a bit of a Tolkien fan.